Var debate 2019/20

[waspish]

Im with Pep var is good for the game.

 

[wattle]

Neil Swarbrick (the VAR czar) says that Oliver thought that Rodri had dived and that VAR supported him after a review.

So why the fuck wasn’t he booked for simulation. That’s just a blatant lie

 

[TonyM]

Neil Swarbrick (the VAR czar) says that Oliver thought that Rodri had dived and that VAR supported him after a review.

Rodri did fall easily but only after the hands were all over him. Imo var should be just stating which happened first, illegal contact or fall. In Pogba's case it was fall first. In Rodri's case it was fall second.

Honestly, I don't get it.

I would love for the rules to be clear and the decisions consistent.

Couldn't there be a tv show each week to review the laws, decisions, etc with stats for consistency, and metrics per club or player, and refs to speak about how they'll improve the game. You know - like showing that they care????

 

[Kinkys Left Foot]

Listening to Neil Swarbrick (Head of VAR) on the radio. He said Rodri dived lol. This is the level of corruption we are dealing with.

If that's the case it shows these wankers are either completely incompetent as officials or that we are going to be repeatedly shafted by this lot time and time again. Nearly every football commentator has said it was a definite penalty. I expect a nailed on VAR decision to go for us when we are 6 - 0 up somewhere to show how fair it is.
It's blatant cheating in my book. I already want rid of it.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

because the ball was passed backwards, therefore onside, shouldn't even be a debate

I don't think that is a law. You can still be offside if the ball is played backwards, if you are in an offside position and run back to get it behind where it was played.

This is the law:
any part of the head, body or feet is nearer to the opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent

 

[Kinkladze 1]

How are people complaining about the Pogba penalty? It's completely a penalty, Coady doesn't even complain. The biggest farce last night was the Wolves goal pissed me off. How is that any different from the Sterling one at West Ham?

Are you for real?!.... pogba blatantly dived!

 

[David Kloppesh]

I don't think that is a law. You can still be offside if the ball is played backwards, if you are in an offside position and run back to get it behind where it was played.

This is the law:
any part of the head, body or feet is nearer to the opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent

You can't be offside if the ball is not passed forward.

 

[meltonblue]

Correct, look at the hands position at the moment of contact, he's already decided to dive, contact or not.

That’s slightly after contact. Even so though, by this logic you’re essentially arguing the vast majority of Sterling’s that I have thought were stonewall weren’t penalties either.

If the defender says himself it’s a penalty and fans of the impacted team all say it’s a penalty, then it does suggest a level of partisan inducted myopia on anyone else’s part to try and argue it. VAR to me was absolutely right not to do anything with this one. Like someone said earlier, the Wolves goal was the more contentious one.

 

[flook]

You can't be offside if the ball is not passed forward.

correct, happens all the time on break-away goals when 2 on 1 on the keeper

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

Didn’t watch or listen to the game on Saturday. First time in 40 years that I haven’t gone out of my way to watch or at least listen. Didn’t watch match of the day. Didn’t watch any game on Sunday. Didn’t watch the rags last night. Usually go to around 20 games a season. Can’t see me going to any. What’s the point? If you can’t celebrate a goal then there is literally no point at all. I thought I’d struggle with var this season but I didn’t expect it to escalate so quickly. There must be thousands the same as me? I saw this coming last year v Schalke. Winning 7-0 and coming away frustrated? What’s that about. 3 minute delay after every goal to check for any tiny infringement. And then 0 mins added time? Utter farce. I just can’t watch. It makes me so angry. Until they sort it out - which I can’t see in the near future, I genuinely won’t be watching. That makes me so sad and leaves a massive hole in my life. I’ll still keep in touch with things because my lads will be watching but god knows what I’m going to do instead? If they made it so that every team has one or two reviews like cricket, then I think that’d sort it out to some extent, but they won’t do that. I won’t even be on here as much as I probably won’t know what people are going on about. That’s also very sad. Gutted. Better start practicing my golf swing. Thanks var!!!!!

I went to the game and it has taken me a couple of days to process what happened. Not completely over it yet, though. If it happens regularly to us and no-one else, then I'm probably done too. I think the younger end will persist with it because they are happier to devolve all their life to some new-fangled tech-solution way of doing something that didn't need changing.

Maybe this is what "they're" trying to do - weaken City's support. In pre-season, that palaver about the missed plane to China and the accusation of disrespect doesn't sit well with me, I think it was an orchestrated attack on the club and this could be too. And I'm not one for conspiracy theories at all.