Var debate 2019/20

It’s quite simple Ric, Liverpool are being assisted by cheats.

I suppose it’s easier for those to not lose their heads when it’s buried in the sand.
Let’s presume that’s true for a minute. How has that meant we lost to Norwich, Utd and Wolves twice, drew at home to Palace, and let Newcastle take a point by not marking the only bloke they had who could score from outside the box. That’s 16 points we’ve given up and, if we win those games, we are 6 points behind them with a game in hand, and have to play them at home. That’s the real reason they’re going to win it at a cantor.
 
Is that whataboutery?

I will answer though. Firminho went down like he had been shot and had Sterling down similar it would be laughed off.

Fabinho didn't just look like a penalty it was one but fuck that, let them play on so they van score and pretend VAR has taken a look.

Liverpool are an excellent side but they have had every single decision going this season that has mattered in a game, every single one. They got the vast majority last season as well but we where just too good. No such chances are being taken this season though as VAR has robbed us of enough points and given them plenty to ensure no slip ups.
Every game they've struggled to break teams down in they have had a 'helping hand', either VAR or the referee awarding a freekick in a dangerous area.
 
Is that whataboutery?

I will answer though. Firminho went down like he had been shot and had Sterling down similar it would be laughed off.

Fabinho didn't just look like a penalty it was one but fuck that, let them play on so they van score and pretend VAR has taken a look.

Liverpool are an excellent side but they have had every single decision going this season that has mattered in a game, every single one. They got the vast majority last season as well but we where just too good. No such chances are being taken this season though as VAR has robbed us of enough points and given them plenty to ensure no slip ups.

Ive not seen Liverpool’s game today and have absolutely no intention to but, I think your right - I don’t think it can be reasonably argued that the same rules have applied to everyone

They’d have probably won the league anyway but what’s happened this season is clear and obvious as far as I’m concerned
 
Liverpool have deservedly won the league and we have let our high standards slip but this discussion is about VAR and we have been robbed by it several times whilst they seemingly get the benefit of it every single time it actually matters and is needed.
 
Is that whataboutery?

I will answer though. Firminho went down like he had been shot and had Sterling down similar it would be laughed off.

Fabinho didn't just look like a penalty it was one but fuck that, let them play on so they van score and pretend VAR has taken a look.

Liverpool are an excellent side but they have had every single decision going this season that has mattered in a game, every single one. They got the vast majority last season as well but we where just too good. No such chances are being taken this season though as VAR has robbed us of enough points and given them plenty to ensure no slip ups.
Sorry, you seem to have skirted around the bit about Scudamore’s comments. Be honest, it simply doesn’t add up does it?
 
Sorry, you seem to have skirted around the bit about Scudamore’s comments. Be honest, it simply doesn’t add up does it?

What doesnt add up?

Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal have a far bigger global fanbase than we do, especially in the markets the PL makes huge money from.

Why is it then strange to you that the league would like those sides to do well?
 
Let’s presume that’s true for a minute. How has that meant we lost to Norwich, Utd and Wolves twice, drew at home to Palace, and let Newcastle take a point by not marking the only bloke they had who could score from outside the box. That’s 16 points we’ve given up and, if we win those games, we are 6 points behind them with a game in hand, and have to play them at home. That’s the real reason they’re going to win it at a cantor.
I think people miss the fact that some of the games we played 'sh*te' in that the match officials had an influence on the way we have played, not Just VAR, but 'traditional' methods of game management. Yes' we've missed many a chance in front of goal, and their is no excuse for that, but given a level playing field we would likely be at least level.
 
I think people miss the fact that some of the games we played 'sh*te' in that the match officials had an influence on the way we have played, not Just VAR, but 'traditional' methods of game management. Yes' we've missed many a chance in front of goal, and their is no excuse for that, but given a level playing field we would likely be at least level.

You're wasting your time mate.

You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink.
 
What doesnt add up?

Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal have a far bigger global fanbase than we do, especially in the markets the PL makes huge money from.

Why is it then strange to you that the league would like those sides to do well?
You’re deliberately avoiding the question. Scudamore said it wasn’t in their interests for a team to dominate. Liverpool are dominating more this season than any team in history, yet you still think that the authorities are going out of their way to facilitate this. It doesn’t make any sense.
 
What doesnt add up?

Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal have a far bigger global fanbase than we do, especially in the markets the PL makes huge money from.

Why is it then strange to you that the league would like those sides to do well?
We’ve won it more times than Arsenal and Liverpool and are one behind Chelsea. If you look at the last 10 years, since the takeover, we’ve won 4, Rags have won 3, Chelsea 3, Arsenal NONE, Liverpool NONE. Since 2012, it’s even more stark. (4, 1, 2, 0 and 0). This conspiracy is piss poor at delivering the ‘right’ result, that’s for sure.....
 
We’ve won it more times than Arsenal and Liverpool and are one behind Chelsea. If you look at the last 10 years, since the takeover, we’ve won 4, Rags have won 3, Chelsea 3, Arsenal NONE, Liverpool NONE. Since 2012, it’s even more stark. (4, 1, 2, 0). This conspiracy is piss poor at delivering the ‘right’ result, that’s for sure.....
Sometimes you just have to shake your head. Surely they don’t actually believe some of the stuff they’re coming out with? Imagine thinking that everything is that corrupt. Presumably you’d just the bin the game off altogether?!
 
Sometimes you just have to shake your head. Surely they don’t actually believe some of the stuff they’re coming out with? Imagine thinking that everything is that corrupt. Presumably you’d just the bin the game off altogether?!
That’s the clincher for me. You’d just walk away and never attend another match, if you really believed it was all pre-ordained, surely? I know I would.
 
What doesnt add up?

Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal have a far bigger global fanbase than we do, especially in the markets the PL makes huge money from.

Why is it then strange to you that the league would like those sides to do well?

City attract the 3rd highest international PL viewing figures after united and Liverpool. We have more appeal to the neutral audience than arsenal or Chelsea.
 
Ive not seen Liverpool’s game today and have absolutely no intention to but, I think your right - I don’t think it can be reasonably argued that the same rules have applied to everyone

They’d have probably won the league anyway but what’s happened this season is clear and obvious as far as I’m concerned
And for anyone that isn't Blind.
 
Should we not have had a penalty against Firmino in first half as well. ? And remember it was 0-0 so the VAR lads must have thought , no we won't give it as we are positive we can sort one out in the second half. If they cancel each other out I would think we would have won the game easily, 4 or maybe 3 - 1 taking into account we would have been 1- 0 up at half time and scored early on in second half.
No you shouldn't have
 
Yep. Why would you waste so much financial and emotional effort in something that you felt was heavily rigged and pre-determined?! It doesn’t make any sense to me.
I've often wondered this. There's a few on here absolutely convinced that the game is rotten to the core and has been for years and years. The whole thing is corrupt according to them and the rest of us are all mugs for not seeing it.

Yet here they still are, watching football every week and spending inordinate amounts of their lives discussing the games online. I mean what's the point in bothering? Surely if you were THAT convinced it was all fixed, you'd just walk away from it.
 
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It's not about them winning the league.
The point is this.
There has been arguments ever since we won the league with 100 points as to who was the best prem team and its was still talked about arsenal being unbeaten even though they drew 12 games
Liverpool can break or record but as long as they lose one that debate surely will still apply
Now I said this two months ago when I thought the league was over for us. This is about liverpool going unbeaten and setting points records. Then there will be no arguments.
Imagine the money the prem league could generate through that scenario
 
Let’s presume that’s true for a minute. How has that meant we lost to Norwich, Utd and Wolves twice, drew at home to Palace, and let Newcastle take a point by not marking the only bloke they had who could score from outside the box. That’s 16 points we’ve given up and, if we win those games, we are 6 points behind them with a game in hand, and have to play them at home. That’s the real reason they’re going to win it at a cantor.
Yes we’ve played shit but that makes the cheating even more Brazen.

I’m supposed to sit here and clap because we’ve been shit and they’d probably win it anyway? No, that’s not how this should work. They hack, they lie, they kill, they cheat and yet people really accept them as champions?
If there was any justice in the world they’d go into administration.
 

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