Var debate 2019/20

Interpretation of Clear and obvious bullshit rule.
Egyptian pussy : tug on shirt vs Stamp on David’s foot that made him fall down .

Clear and obvious corruption.
 
What a fucking ridiculous post, that stat itself shows it’s bent. If VAR was “useless” then we wouldn’t all 100% know that Rodri and Silva were absolutely nailed on penalties, there’s not a single pundit or opposition fan that’s said anything different, just 1 man, the Head of VAR.

If “incorrect” decisions are still made despite video evidence being present then it can’t be anything other than bent.

It’s like blaming CCTV for the lack of arrests at Anfield after the mickey’s bricked our coach, that’s not useless, that’s a corrupt police service.
Fuck me, where did you go for your lobotomy?

If it was bent, it would be overturning some penalty decisions and not others. By overturning none, it shows itself to be pointless and impotent.

Give your head a wobble.
 
So can you tell me who else has been subject to 3 absolutely 100% proven “incorrect” decisions (e.g. Sterling/Jesus offside, Rodri penalty and Silva penalty)?

Combine that with a highly contentious 93rd minute handball decision that is inconclusive if you look at actual evidence (not a single poster on Bluemoon or anywhere else could provide conclusive evidence, just video which can be seen either way). It’s a subjective decision based on the probability of the ball hitting Laporte’s hand, not a definitive decision. There’s also a penalty not given for Laporte’s arm being pulled back less than a second before the handball, conveniently ignored.

You will mention the foul on Martial against Palace which was outside the box, a foul on Rashford which was a clear slip.

The fact remains “incorrect” decisions being given whether it’s to one or all, when there’s evidence there to ensure the correct decisions are made. The lack of overturning VAR decisions at the very very least is an attempt to cover up appalling refereeing standards which is corruption in itself.
We’ve had 4 go against us (though not 3 “100% proven” anything) and 2 go for us.

The two penalties are nailed on wrong calls.

The handball is down to semantics, I’m leaning to the view that their got it wrong by the written letter of the law. The offside is offside going off their system. Would have been onside had they chosen the frame before. So that’s touch and go.

The Jesus offside looked more onside than the one var gave us (Sterling).

The penalty retake was the first time I’ve seen it in ages and was happy with it, obviously.

If you want to go around having your season ruined by having your blue tinted specs on where everything goes against us and nothing goes against the other big teams then you go ahead and do that. I’m still giving it the benefit of the doubt until more data sets (games) are in and to see how other teams are affected by it. Liverpool haven’t had a contentious decision either way yet, what happens when they do will go a long way to forming my opinion on it.

Simply saying “it’ll favour Liverpool and it’s designed to help them” at this stage is ludicrous paranoia. Neither of us will know until something actually happens.
 
The World, her husband, their children and the rescue dog are agreed it was a pen! I think this scenario of Dippers getting pens and our goals being chalked off and pens being denied will carry on until the Dippers roll out their open top bus and the litter pickers have gone home, and then VAR will come clean and admit they might have got a few decisions not quite right (read totally and utterly wrong!) and hands will be held up and we stumble into the close season.
 
They don't have to make a single decision in a dipper game they just have to keep making them in ours
What incident would you have looked at in any of the three Liverpool games (if you were in control of var and trying to fuck them over)?

I’m guessing you’ve watched all 3 games in full.
 
We’ve had 4 go against us (though not 3 “100% proven” anything) and 2 go for us.

The two penalties are nailed on wrong calls.

The handball is down to semantics, I’m leaning to the view that their got it wrong by the written letter of the law. The offside is offside going off their system. Would have been onside had they chosen the frame before. So that’s touch and go.

The Jesus offside looked more onside than the one var gave us (Sterling).

The penalty retake was the first time I’ve seen it in ages and was happy with it, obviously.

If you want to go around having your season ruined by having your blue tinted specs on where everything goes against us and nothing goes against the other big teams then you go ahead and do that. I’m still giving it the benefit of the doubt until more data sets (games) are in and to see how other teams are affected by it. Liverpool haven’t had a contentious decision either way yet, what happens when they do will go a long way to forming my opinion on it.

Simply saying “it’ll favour Liverpool and it’s designed to help them” at this stage is ludicrous paranoia. Neither of us will know until something actually happens.
All good mate, but I will add that the “bent” part is that we all assumed we would get the penalty situation sorted as we know we always get the bum deal, however refs are just sticking with the “not giving them to us” option which if VAR isn’t going to overrule allows them to still hurt us. With the dippers you can nailed on guarantee that Salah will continue to dive and get them given by the refs, and lo and behold they won’t get overturned, just like the one that was given for Pogba in the Wolves game.
 
So VAR is settling down a bit now and I’m a bit more comfortable after this weekend that the “high bar” thing is being equally applied. It also stops the game being re-refereed and is supportive of the on field official.

Get rid of mm offside calls and you have the makings of something workable.

There comes a point where the bar is so high for VAR to intervene, that it renders VAR itself absolutely useless. If the idea is to keep the decision on the field then why spend millions of pounds on system and then decide not to fucking use it.

In my head, VAR was going to stop shit decisions like the Silva pen standing. It hasn't, so for me it's far from 'workable'.

I agree the offside needs to become a little more open.
 

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