Var debate 2019/20

Must admit it was hard to take in the moment but now having calmed down and having time to review the decision it was a clear and obvious handball and we should all be thankful we play in such a wonderful league which can make use of such ground breaking and advanced technology


I'm sorry i just had to :P
 
I’m fed up hearing all these ‘we’ve had a meeting with the VAR representatives’ comments as if those demonstration sessions covered all the areas we would see over the course of the season. The important point today is not the disallowed goal. We know that all goals will be checked and that any hand ball in the lead up to a goal will lead to it being ruled out. What we were less sure about until today was the degree to which a referee’s call in penalty decisions would be influenced by VAR. As far as I can see, they will have to back the referee’s decision on the pitch and not intervene. It will be extremely difficult for VAR to intervene henceforth and recommend a penalty for a defender pulling down an attacker at a corner when the referee has not given it. The benchmark is set with each game and with each decision/non-decision, but the anger is only going to rise if they start making decisions that blatantly contradict previous decisions, something which will become increasingly important when it decides where points and titles ultimately go. The next few weeks should see greater consistency, but I won’t be holding my breath.
 
At least the future of the game will be clearer with VAR ,but to be fair the Premier league should inform all supporters which team is going to win the title before a ball is kicked , the Rags or Dippers , the amount of worldwide plastic fans will quadruple in no time at all and the £££££ will be rolling in.
 
west didsblue said:
It’s ironic that it’s us that seems to be getting the worst of the very marginal decisions. We were all in favour of it when we thought it would stop farces like the Milner 2 yard offside, the Salah dives and the blatantly wrong decisions in our CL QF against the dippers. Now that we’ve got it it’s like Frankenstein’s monster that’s now off the leash. We should have been careful what we wished for.
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I would be more than happy for VAR to be applied where it needs to be applied - that is where you might need a second look at something to make sure that what happened either delivers a goal or spots an infringement. But it seems that with only two games gone and a handful of CL games last season to go on, the system is being manipulated and operated in a most egregious manner where I am beginning to think that the VAR acronym is actually the first three letters of VARIABLE!
 
Petetheblu said:
Should have been a decent application, but it's way to murky and open to manipulation.
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Everything should be reviewed in real time not slowed down to the nth degree that way they make a decision same way as the officials on the field, come to think of it maybe best to leave it to the officials on the pitch.
 
VAR backed the decision on the Rodri penalty and went against his decision for Jesus's goal , Oliver should have been requested to look at both decisions himself on the screen in the ground , they were big decisions and needed clarifying by the ref.
 
Gabriel said:
I’m fed up hearing all these ‘we’ve had a meeting with the VAR representatives’ comments as if those demonstration sessions covered all the areas we would see over the course of the season. The important point today is not the disallowed goal. We know that all goals will be checked and that any hand ball in the lead up to a goal will lead to it being ruled out. What we were less sure about until today was the degree to which a referee’s call in penalty decisions would be influenced by VAR. As far as I can see, they will have to back the referee’s decision on the pitch and not intervene. It will be extremely difficult for VAR to intervene henceforth and recommend a penalty for a defender pulling down an attacker at a corner when the referee has not given it. The benchmark is set with each game and with each decision/non-decision, but the anger is only going to rise if they start making decisions that blatantly contradict previous decisions, something which will become increasingly important when it decides where points and titles ultimately go. The next few weeks should see greater consistency, but I won’t be holding my breath.
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I think I am too cynical to see this as being something that will benefit teams league wide.
 
i kne albert davy said:
Everything should be reviewed in real time not slowed down to the nth degree that way they make a decision same way as the officials on the field, come to think of it maybe best to leave it to the officials on the pitch.
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That’s a fair point. If there are some VAR officials watching the match in real time from a few angles and they immediately flagged to the ref if they saw something it might be ok but forensically scrutinising incidents over the next minute is just ridiculous.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
I think I am too cynical to see this as being something that will benefit teams league wide.
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I think we will be more effected simply by dint of the number of attacks we have.

Guardiola has already mentioned ‘consistency’ after 3 games, as he can cite from our own experiences and that of others, and it’s only going to get more contentious with games and decisions.
 
Difficult to envisage any real issues so long as VAR is utilised openly and applied impartially in every game. There's simply no way it could be blatantly used to the detriment of one Club whilst benefitting certain others.




Oh, hang on...
 
Still livid about the game... but...

I actually think in the long term gain we could do all right out of VAR come May. The Rodri incident has been extensively covered and chastised by both Sky and MOTD. As we move forward these decisions will start getting punished as they are game changing incidents. As we tend to spend much more time in the opponents box than any other team in the league, you would think we would Benefit from this eventually

I also think that we will see a massive drop in the old’ one shot on goal.. one goal conceded City drop points pattern we have endured these past few years. This is purely because with the VAR review system we will see less goals count.. I would imagine around 30% odd of all goals VAR will find fault with which when you drop points to a team scoring 2 goals from their only 2 shots bodes more favourably for the team spending the majority of their time peppering your goal with 20+ shots.

Basically I expect teams to score a significant less amount of goals this season due to VAR which in all honesty would benefit us as we rarely win by a goal so the margins should hurt our rivals more.

That said that’s reliant on no corruption and an even playing field... perhaps I live in Nania!
 
BlueMoonie said:
Must admit it was hard to take in the moment but now having calmed down and having time to review the decision it was a clear and obvious handball and we should all be thankful we play in such a wonderful league which can make use of such ground breaking and advanced technology

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I'm sorry i just had to :P
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Mars arses on here do my napper in. It’s according to the rules. LIVE WITH IT.

We WILL benefit at some point.

Like it or not get on with. It’s fair.
 
Should of had a pen for the Rodri foul but the handball is consistent with the new rules. You only have to look at Leicester and Wolves match last week. It is a bit ambigious how close the handball has to be from the point of scoring. Whats the window from the the handball and the ball going into the back of the net?
 
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