Var debate 2019/20

manisblue said:
I still can't believe that was not even a yellow (had to be red)..... He kicked him in the nuts .... you crazy ? :X Are they now pushing Manuer to get in top 4? Well... they will have to try hard with that clown behind the wheel.
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its now the golden 5th place sky can not stop talking about the race for 5th place
 
nmc said:
The Maguire incident tells you all you need to know. Anthony Taylor showed Son a red card for a similar offence earlier in the season - but last night a slightly more aggressive incident was deemed not even worthy of a yellow card. Let’s be fair in the heat of the moment refs can and do make mistakes - so even if we give Alty the benefit of the doubt the right decision should still be made by the morons in the caravan. VAR had time to look at that and make an informed decision - there were 2 possibly 3 camera angles The whole Sky panel were certain it was a red card. The VAR official must have spent circa 10 seconds reviewing that (he certainly did not have time to look at it from several angles - which were available) the decision came up immediately - it was just nonchalantly waved away. Compare that with the VAR process when United or Liverpool concede - they spend however long it takes to scrutinise the last 60 seconds of play searching for any excuse to chalk a goal off! VAR was supposed to bring consistency but the officials are using it to gain even more control over the game and results. It’s probably an exaggeration to say every game but a significant number of games I have watched on TV this season have had the outcome influenced by VAR and that influence has neither been applied fairly or professionally. I honestly fear for the game.
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...either or, neither nor.
 
Big VAR decisions that have gone in favour of Liverpool/United/Spurs this season ......
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....Volume 1
 
Just watched again the Fred push and whilst everyone is moaning you can quite clearly see Maguire shouting 'Anthony' at the ref. In rugby the players call the ref sir as a mark of respect. Football they are on first name terms with authority, what a joke.
 
Eds said:
Just watched again the Fred push and whilst everyone is moaning you can quite clearly see Maguire shouting 'Anthony' at the ref. In rugby the players call the ref sir as a mark of respect. Football they are on first name terms with authority, what a joke.
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Like rughead with his constant mark this mark that during games with clattenburg and how he was allowed to put his arms around him
 
manisblue said:
I still can't believe that was not even a yellow (had to be red)..... He kicked him in the nuts .... you crazy ? :X Are they now pushing Manuer to get in top 4? Well... they will have to try hard with that clown behind the wheel.
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Scudamore is on record saying 'an under-performing Manchester Un*ted is bad for the PL brand'. Of course they want them back in the CL.
 
Eds said:
Just watched again the Fred push and whilst everyone is moaning you can quite clearly see Maguire shouting 'Anthony' at the ref. In rugby the players call the ref sir as a mark of respect. Football they are on first name terms with authority, what a joke.
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Maquire probably telephoned taylor this morning to congratulate him on his great performance last night.
 
would the premier league be better with referees from other countries ?? and have no connection with the premier league and not based in england
the premier league should have nothing to do with the refereeing the games ? it should be a independent company and no clubs have any power to call the shots or get involved with

ok yes i understand the power of the 2 so called elite clubs and they would never go for anything like that ?? but as i understand a majority voting on any new rules or changes has to be put to the powers, so if enough get together and vote for changes and we have outside referees from all over the world then i would vote for that
 
ancoats said:
would the premier league be better with referees from other countries ?? and have no connection with the premier league and not based in england
the premier league should have nothing to do with the refereeing the games ? it should be a independent company and no clubs have any power to call the shots or get involved with

ok yes i understand the power of the 2 so called elite clubs and they would never go for anything like that ?? but as i understand a majority voting on any new rules or changes has to be put to the powers, so if enough get together and vote for changes and we have outside referees from all over the world then i would vote for that
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Referees are shit in every country and VAR is incorrectly used or with not consistent outcome in every league. CL is a good example of that.
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
They are not just shit though in the PL, they are blatantly corrupt.

Maguire should have seen red, and fucking Taylor and VAR just ignored it.
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If kicking someone in the bollocks is not a sending off, a Chelsea player should of put Anthony rag Taylor’s into touch.
 
The thing that annoyed me the most wasn't that the fucker should of walked it was the post match analysis when the spitter and dog wanker were smirking, felt like putting my foot through the fucking TV.
 
davek1808 said:
The thing that annoyed me the most wasn't that the fucker should of walked it was the post match analysis when the spitter and dog wanker were smirking, felt like putting my foot through the fucking TV.
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No surprises there as they are both arrogant fuckers .
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
They are not just shit though in the PL, they are blatantly corrupt.

Maguire should have seen red, and fucking Taylor and VAR just ignored it.
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Not denying that the Maguire situation was completely surreal but it is not really better in other leagues. Recently Marcelo kicked Mbappé and didn't get a red, VAR didn't even call the referee.

Even that Lyon fan account is astonished by that other non penalty call by VAR and the referee :


Look at the foul :


Even when called by VAR to give the red card, the referee watched the whole thing and decided to upheld his decision and gave a yellow card.

There is a referee on our forum who said it is sometimes hard for VAR referees to call the main referee and tell him he is wrong. And main referee will sometimes refuse the correct call from VAR because of their ego.
 
Parisian said:
Not denying that the Maguire situation was completely surreal but it is not really better in other leagues. Recently Marcelo kicked Mbappé and didn't get a red, VAR didn't even call the referee.

Even that Lyon fan account is astonished by that other non penalty call by VAR and the referee :


Look at the foul :


Even when called by VAR to give the red card, the referee watched the whole thing and decided to upheld his decision and gave a yellow card.

There is a referee on our forum who said it is sometimes hard for VAR referees to call the main referee and tell him he is wrong. And main referee will sometimes refuse the correct call from VAR because of their ego.
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the ref got that wrong BUT at least it was the match ref ! not a ref in the shed
 
@Parisian that is a valid point,here the var refs are quite often junior or names we have never heard off,i think overuling the experienced refs on the pitch is a big ask,i expect there is a hierachy in play,pigmol said a few weeks ago that refs now have permission to use the pitchside monitors but they are not,var has complete control and it varies wildly depending who the team is,the power they hold is frightening
 
give it to gordon said:
the ref got that wrong BUT at least it was the match ref ! not a ref in the shed
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The first picture is a clear penalty. Look at that block. Neither match ref or VAR reacted to it. I would have shown you other videos of instance of VAR not doing their job if i had some links to provide.

Not saying the Maguire stuff is acceptable. Just that referee and use of VAR are shit everywhere cuz the men are shit, biased, corrupt, etc. Not just in PL.
 
I knew something was not right when Taylor was awarded MOM. Can anybody tell me why was the silence deafening when Kante was butchered by Fred (I think). No VAR to check what had happened. Then Taylor started to run back to the centre circle and did an about turn and ran back to the penalty area. He does not inspire confidence, unless you wear red.
 
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