VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

[Saddleworth2]

ALL is the key word.

All in real time please. I thought the recorded conversations were illuminating and if they are bona fide then we are going in the right direction. What is needed now is for a he conversation to be played live at the game.
What I thought was a disgrace was Webber undermining of his officials at the Ake goal. Trying to make out it was a clear mistake. What a **** ,

 

[ninjamonkey]

Some people don't half have a weird almost dipper-like obsession in thinking absolutely everything is aimed negatively at us.

We've just benefitted hugely from a decision that was clear as day to everybody who's ever seen a game of football that it was the wrong call and yet some believe the officials a tually acknowledging the glaring error is somehow a pre-meditated long term plan to fuck us over.

There would be dozens and dozens of pages laughing at it if these conspiracy theories were pulled from rawk.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

I don’t often bother with these threads but there’s something bothersome about PGMOL. Can’t quite figure out why but when I hear the referees communicate in football it sounds odd. Yet when I watch Rugby League/Union it sounds far more coherent and all around more professional.

I thought it was chaos, not complete chaos but not even coherent at times. It was like whoever shouted loudest makes the call. Probably not that but certainly agree with you it not very professional.

 

[TheThirdDeano]

Did they cover the onara assault?

(“Onara” is Japanese for fart. A rather high brow joke on the new united keepers name I thought you’d all enjoy)

 

[mancboy]

Some people don't half have a weird almost dipper-like obsession in thinking absolutely everything is aimed negatively at us.

We've just benefitted hugely from a decision that was clear as day to everybody who's ever seen a game of football that it was the wrong call and yet some believe the officials a tually acknowledging the glaring error is somehow a pre-meditated long term plan to fuck us over.

There would be dozens and dozens of pages laughing at it if these conspiracy theories were pulled from rawk.

I think in some aspects you're wrong mate, the issue for me isnt that we benefitted from a dodgy decision its how it was reported and played out in the media, as i have said in the past, skys actual headline was city beat fulham 5-1 after contentious second goal, like that singular incident was central to the whole game, at no point were there any headlines saying utd eek out win against wolves after none penalty call or utd helped to victory over forest after contentious sending off and penalty, or how about liverpool put 3 past bournemouth after surprising penalty decisions.

Of course it was a contentious and downright dodgy decision but as i have said in the past and other people have said to put that as the headline and defining point of the game and literally have programmes on a tuesday night after the game was on a saturday still discussing it is crazy, where was all this when utd, arsenal, liverpool all benefitted from contentious decisions that actually were game changers.

 

[mancboy]

I thought it was chaos, not complete chaos but not even coherent at times. It was like whoever shouted loudest makes the call. Probably not that but certainly agree with you it not very professional.

Theres nothing professional about them, mike dean admitting that he didnt follow the rules to protect his mate which is tantamount to match fixing and then taking a wage as a reffing expert and having the gall to commentate games on sky show what an entirely shameless bunch they are

 

[halfcenturyup]

I don’t often bother with these threads but there’s something bothersome about PGMOL. Can’t quite figure out why but when I hear the referees communicate in football it sounds odd. Yet when I watch Rugby League/Union it sounds far more coherent and all around more professional.

Quite right. The lack of terminology from the laws is astounding. The Onana incident. Late, very late, clumsy. What is all that about? It's like two guys discussing it in a pub.

The discussion should be: Was he making a challenge? Yes. Did he show a lack of attention or consideration? Yes ("clumsy"), offense, direct free kick. Penalty. Did he act with disregard to the safety of (or consequences to) an opponent? Yes. Yellow card. Did he use excessive force? No. No red card.

Done and dusted, and explained with the LOTG so everyone can understand it in ten seconds.

It's like amateur hour. Don't they get any training? Too busy with Webbsy, Deansy and all the other cuntsies in their first-class gym and canteen, I imagine.

 

[hertsblue]

Going by reports, As expected, covered the Ake goal but not Dippers Salah offside one. Both exactly the same but media coverage a complete joke as one keeps getting pushed into the headlights and one not mentioned and forgotten.

Covered the Onana Wolves one as they have already apologised so an easy one tp pick but nothing on the Forest game with the penalty and incorrect red card Where the officiating led to Forest making a complaint.

Nothing on Dippers 2 penalty, both wrong, decisions v Bournemouth.
Luton penalty claim v West Ham ?

Would have been interesting for audio from FA Cup final.

Careful cherry picking by Webb. Until they make all audio from all games available nothing will improve and these shows are just PR and pointless with them carefully selecting what to release

 

[mancboy]

Going by reports, As expected, covered the Ake goal but not Dippers Salah offside one. Both exactly the same but media coverage a complete joke as one keeps getting pushed into the headlights and one not mentioned and forgotten.

Covered the Onana Wolves one as they have already apologised so an easy one tp pick but nothing on the Forest game with the penalty and incorrect red card Where the officiating led to Forest making a complaint.

Nothing on Dippers 2 penalty, both wrong, decisions v Bournemouth.
Luton penalty claim v West Ham ?

Would have been interesting for audio from FA Cup final.

Careful cherry picking by Webb. Until they make all audio from all games available nothing will improve and these shows are just PR and pointless with them carefully selecting what to release

Not only all audio available but live and in real time, it just shows how little trust people have in pgmol that immediately people think well thats probably edited anyway.

 

[pride in battle]

Anyone with the link or video?

Me too please