VAR is designed to add drama and storylines… to make the PL go down to the last day where possible, for the drama of the as it stands league table brought up during the televised games on the final day. Imagine a final day where relegation has been decided, league winners have been decided and the top four has been decided. The amount of advertising revenue lost (especially overseas) would be huge, as no arm chair fans are watching that.
Yesterday is an example of this is play. A Coventry vs City final would have no where near the international pull for TV audiences as a Manchester derby final does.
Money talks, and money breeds corruption. Unfortunately it seems the PL haven’t informed most of the clubs they are now effectively in a WWE style sport.
Except since VAR Man City have pretty much had the titled wrapped up most seasons, only Liverpool winning once in the last 6 years.
Prior VAR we had Chelsea, Leicester, Man City twice and Man Utd winning the title often coming down to a nail biting run in finish.
I’m not talking about a random VAR decision going against you. Every club has had those. I mean celebrating an unbelievably important goal like your life depended on it as we did that night, only to have it taken away several minutes later.we've had more VAR decisions go against us than most clubs, stats for that. sure it's heart-breaking and gutting when you feel hard done by - but for me, i take more comfort knowing a goal is being correctly awarded - of course, when it's not correctly awarded then yes, its infuriating and understandable to be outraged albeit every clubs screams corruption which gets tedious. VAR will never be flawless, that's the major problem.
As for celebrating the same, i'd say i do really - you can see that in the stands every PL ground when a goal goes in. sometimes i have a seed of doubt if i think could be an offside or foul in lead up - as a positive it's a bigger relief when given and less suprising if ruled out.
We could’ve had the automatic offside system but the FA/PL wanted to stick with the easier to manipulate etch-a-sketch system.
Why should Forest put up with it? It's either incompetence or corruption. You seem to think that clubs should just continually roll over , politely complain and accept a PGMOL apology the useless incompetent or corrupt official, either way it's the same result , then gets suspended for a game and then we all carry on in the same vein. Rinse repeat. I don't think PHMOL are good enough to be in charge of a multi billion pound business. Unless people make a stand against things that are clearly wrong nothing ever gets changed in any walk of life. I just wish City and other clubs would call this crap officiating out.Which is fine. We’re in uncharted waters now though and I don’t know what the maximum punishment could be for them. It’d be ironic if it was enough points to keep Luton up…
I’m not talking about a random VAR decision going against you. Every club has had those. I mean celebrating an unbelievably important goal like your life depended on it as we did that night, only to have it taken away several minutes later.
And it wasn’t even one of those that you immediately thought there might be something iffy about it. Looked nothing wrong with it in real time.
I’m sure part of me died that night
So you celebrate each and every goal in the same way as you did pre-VAR? No holding back? Maybe you need a moment like we had against Spurs in the Champions League to understand how that feels.
Why should Forest put up with it? It's either incompetence or corruption. You seem to think that clubs should just continually roll over , politely complain and accept a PGMOL apology the useless incompetent or corrupt official, either way it's the same result , then gets suspended for a game and then we all carry on in the same vein. Rinse repeat. I don't think PHMOL are good enough to be in charge of a multi billion pound business. Unless people make a stand against things that are clearly wrong nothing ever gets changed in any walk of life. I just wish City and other clubs would call this crap officiating out.
We haven’t had it wrapped up with run away leads though, it has been kept close.
But it doesn’t matter who wins it for the PL, the drama that comes with the title run in, the relegation deciders etc. They can’t sell the product if it doesn’t have an exciting climax.
Yes I’ve had that with and without VAR. It’s part of the game.
Why should they be punished. They have already suffered due to PMGOL mistakes. If there is no conflict of interest in appointed Referees for games Why do the FA /PL ask them what clubs they support and not let them ref those games. You can't have it both ways. Atwell is an utterly useless ref if he is unable to get that last Pen decision correct. Yet he will carry on regardless defended by his employers and continue to make more horrendous errors.Which is fine. We’re in uncharted waters now though and I don’t know what the maximum punishment could be for them. It’d be ironic if it was enough points to keep Luton up…
Two things … Really? Examples please. And secondly, without VAR you know in a couple of seconds that it’s been disallowed. We celebrated for MINUTESYes I’ve had that with and without VAR. It’s part of the game.
No England game to watch ,, so comes on and says city win the league because of VAR
Bore off
Two things … Really? Examples please. And secondly, without VAR you know in a couple of seconds that it’s been disallowed. We celebrated for MINUTES
What are they going to achieve by these tweets? They’ll just get a mega fine and their manager potentially getting a touchline ban.Why should Forest put up with it? It's either incompetence or corruption. You seem to think that clubs should just continually roll over , politely complain and accept a PGMOL apology the useless incompetent or corrupt official, either way it's the same result , then gets suspended for a game and then we all carry on in the same vein. Rinse repeat. I don't think PHMOL are good enough to be in charge of a multi billion pound business. Unless people make a stand against things that are clearly wrong nothing ever gets changed in any walk of life. I just wish City and other clubs would call this crap officiating out.
Of course, I’m sure there has been equally vital goals ruled out for West Ham with the last kick of an epic game, both pre and post VAR. Weird that you can’t actually remember any though.Course there’s been many occasions West Ham have had vital goals ruled out pre VAR and with VAR.
I concede your second point and I’ve also mentioned many times - the delay is the biggest frustration and I can see why fans want rid of it for that reason. For me it’s worth the sacrifice and I know I’m in the minority on that. If they can speed up the process and in many cases they have then that would help.
They’ve accused a referee of being corrupt, without any evidence barring 3 decisions that didn’t go their way, simply because he’s a Luton fan.Why should they be punished. They have already suffered due to PMGOL mistakes. If there is no conflict of interest in appointed Referees for games Why do the FA /PL ask them what clubs they support and not let them ref those games. You can't have it both ways. Atwell is an utterly useless ref if he is unable to get that last Pen decision correct. Yet he will carry on regardless defended by his employers and continue to make more horrendous errors.
They are within their rights to question his integrity when he is making such obvious errors imo. The bloke is either a clown and out of depth or corrupt. When it's such an obvious error as in that third pen claim and there is no explanation for the decision ot easy to see why Forest want to question his integrity.They could have kept it private given their accusation, they openly accused the VAR official of bias and that’s always going to be challenged.
If they’d have said he was incompetent, then there wouldn’t have been an issue.
Of course, I’m sure there has been equally vital goals ruled out for West Ham with the last kick of an epic game, both pre and post VAR. Weird that you can’t actually remember any though.