VAR Discussion Thread | 2024/25

solley attwell said:
I see that Michael Oliver has not been given a game this week because he didnt send Millwall goalkeeper Liam Roberts off initially for s horrendous tackle on Mateta on Saturday.
Now contrast that to the outrage and ambiguity by klopp and certain members of the media to the sending off of Mane for the same type tackle on Ederson
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I surmise he was booked to officiate their game with Soton so they withdrew him after Admiral Akbar piped up?
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Would your dog have seen the Maradona handball or Henry’s handball ? The countless no contact Olympic gold medal dives from Ronaldo, Salah, Kane to win penalties pre VAR ? The farcical leg breaking challenges that went unpunished pre VAR ? Players getting away with biting other players pre VAR ?

All this ‘they’re just relying on VAR’ is massively excusing the officials and pretending they would spot every clear cut decision without VAR. It’s proven without doubt they don’t.
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What, you mean those iconic moments in football history? He probably would and those moments are part of why he's still, just about, in love with football.
 
PSG v dippers.
Var has improved so much that three inches by a half inch of a players calf muscle now rules out a superb goal.

Football 2025. It's getting close to me fucking it off, they are destroying it.
 
The Premier League's "Key Match Incidents Panel" (no, me neither) has said unanimously that the original on-field decision to give Everton the late penalty against the Rags a few weeks ago was incorrect because the foul was given against Maguire and not De Ligt. They also said by 4 votes to 1 that it was right that VAR intervened.

It's also been confirmed that the ref was only able to see De Ligt's shirt pull from one angle, and not the angle from the goal mouth.

www.espn.com

Prem panel: VAR right to scrap Everton pen vs Utd

The Premier League's Key Match Incidents Panel has ruled that the VAR intervention to cancel Everton's stoppage-time penalty against Manchester United last month was correct.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
Blue Mist said:
PSG v dippers.
Var has improved so much that three inches by a half inch of a players calf muscle now rules out a superb goal.

Football 2025. It's getting close to me fucking it off, they are destroying it.
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They said they were trying to create more goals in the game, when they are doing the exact opposite.
It's just a manipulation tool that the sheep can do fuck all about.
 
Kippax77 said:
They said they were trying to create more goals in the game, when they are doing the exact opposite.
It's just a manipulation tool that the sheep can do fuck all about.
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Although, I’d estimate that 90% of contributors to this thread have been calling for SAOT in the Premier League ASAP .Despite the knowledge that it has no tolerance level towards the attacking side, unlike the current system in use.
 
Stephen230 said:
Although, I’d estimate that 90% of contributors to this thread have been calling for SAOT in the Premier League ASAP .Despite the knowledge that it has no tolerance level towards the attacking side, unlike the current system in use.
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Sorry I'm of no help.
Can't stand any of it
 
Watched the ‘Mic’d Up’ programme last night, featuring the Haaland handball at Tottenham.

The first thing to note was the confusion mainly caused by the broadcaster over the on-field decision. The linesman immediately calls the handball and the referee goes with that, within a couple of seconds of the ball going in the goal.

The interesting thing was the actual VAR spent about two minutes seemingly convincing himself that there was no handball and sounded like he was just about to recommend the referee re-considers his decision, when the AVAR ( I’m guessing Sian Massey ) suddenly pipes up for the first time with…Is there any proof that he didn’t handball it though?

The VAR then seems to immediately switch track and sticks with the on field decision.

The reason I say that’s interesting was that in a couple of the other clips, it seemed to be the AVAR who was taking the lead in the decision making and the VAR was more or less going with their recommendation.

I’m guessing this isn’t coincidence and is a result of them pushing some assistant referees into being specialist AVARs, which Massey is one.
 
johnnytapia said:
www.theguardian.com

Atlético controversy shows VAR creates far more angst than it resolves

Football is living through a global case study on whether fairer actually makes for better in the world of professional sport
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Though the accuracy of refereeing may have gone up, the attendant costs to the game’s flow and the emotion of scoring goals feel to many like they don’t justify the price of admission. Goals, the whole objective of the sport, are guilty until proven innocent by VAR validation. “
 
johnnytapia said:
www.theguardian.com

Atlético controversy shows VAR creates far more angst than it resolves

Football is living through a global case study on whether fairer actually makes for better in the world of professional sport
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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And goals are the very reason why the Swedes have resisted VAR. “When a goal is scored, you let the feelings go, you don’t have to wait for a decision at a later stage,” Malmö CEO Niclas Carlnen told the Independent. “Of course, that means you have to accept that the decision is not always right. In Sweden we have prioritized the feelings and the explosion that you have inside stadiums when you score.”
 
Stephen230 said:
Watched the ‘Mic’d Up’ programme last night, featuring the Haaland handball at Tottenham.

The first thing to note was the confusion mainly caused by the broadcaster over the on-field decision. The linesman immediately calls the handball and the referee goes with that, within a couple of seconds of the ball going in the goal.

The interesting thing was the actual VAR spent about two minutes seemingly convincing himself that there was no handball and sounded like he was just about to recommend the referee re-considers his decision, when the AVAR ( I’m guessing Sian Massey ) suddenly pipes up for the first time with…Is there any proof that he didn’t handball it though?

The VAR then seems to immediately switch track and sticks with the on field decision.

The reason I say that’s interesting was that in a couple of the other clips, it seemed to be the AVAR who was taking the lead in the decision making and the VAR was more or less going with their recommendation.

I’m guessing this isn’t coincidence and is a result of them pushing some assistant referees into being specialist AVARs, which Massey is one.
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FFS
 
Blue Mist said:
The Madrid Champs League game last night.
The referee had a clear and unobstructed view of the ball for the Alvarez penalty.

Where was the 'Clear and Obvious' mistake so that Var could intervene ?


Anyone ?
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I’ve seen a million replays and am still not sure. But ‘clear and obvious’ isn’t applicable to what they’d class as a factual decision. Same as an offside, or a ball in or out of play.
 
Stephen230 said:
I’ve seen a million replays and am still not sure. But ‘clear and obvious’ isn’t applicable to what they’d class as a factual decision. Same as an offside, or a ball in or out of play.
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The Guardian disagree with you.
That said the point is surely that Var is now out of control. No one saw the so called touch. Its ruining the game
Further, no one in the stadium realised it was not a goal. The scoreboard showed 2-2. And then 3-2 after the Real penalty.
Yet again match going fans are left in the dark.
I've read the Guardian article posted by @johnnytapia and I agree with every word.
 
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