We need to get rid of VAR not add more to it like challenges, there is so much wrong with this idea Let the officials get on with their job like they did for over a hundred years VAR has made things worse and the offsides taking 4 minutes to decide is frankly madness when it is clear that using videos with some bullshit tech to allow for parallax is shear madness Then the use of VAR to determine if there has been a clear and obvious error by a ref yet intakes five minutes of slow motion repeat and free frame to decide is a total contradiction. There are so many anomalies as to how it is used as well eg VAR cannot help with a two yellow card situation that leads to a red yet it looks at reds
The inch high Lino on Sunday taking ages to put his flag up, not his fault working under instruction
But we are stuck with it because its more money for the officials and extends their life in the job
You seriously believe that Webb and the PiGMOL crewe would go for such a system ?
They are able to control events on the pitch exactly how they want to, despite VAR as it currently is, and I doubt that Howard will be allowed to relinquish that by the main cabal members .
All a bit premature as it probably won't happen, but I really don't think it needs to be so complicated. Most challenges would be when a ball is dead. Fouls given, yellow cards, red cards, corners, throw-ins, goal-kicks, corners, penalties, off-sides given, handballs given. The few others can be handled off-field and quickly by VAR when the ball is in play.
And as for a spate of frivolous appeals in the last few minutes, there could only be a maximum of two. And players spend half injury time rolling around with fake head injuries anyway. There are other problems to worry about. Also, the very first time a manager wastes his challenges in the last few minutes and has none to use when the referee misses a clear penalty in the last seconds, will be the very last time it happens.
One of the biggest problems of VAR wasn't that they overthought it, it was that they underthought it. Anotherwords, your argument is I'm making it too complicated, and I would say to that, lets not make the same mistake we did with VAR and focus on "not making it too complicated". In this case we really need to meticulously craft the system to work without problems and in a way that will enhance the game without being too overbearing. We should be sure to close any possible loopholes which you also alluded to.
Remember when VAR was rolled out, it was all top down coming from FIFA itself. FIFA simply threw VAR on all the leagues, and remember for 1 or 2 years the PL resisted implementation of VAR when they could have. VAR was never something that came from grass roots England. It came straight from the FIFA headquarters and one of the big reasons why England has had so many problems with their version of VAR is due to this fact, that VAR was made "in a simple" way, without foresight to all the problems it would have.
So when you say "you're making it too complicated" that's when I worry that they'll take your advice and just throw a challenge system out there without enough details and they'll be naive to think it would work right.
Remember, I'm the guy who doesn't want VAR or a challenge system. And as I can see I'm not the only one. But I'm trying to be constructive here and give FIFA an "off-ramp" to their failed system VAR and help them implement a more sustainable system of selective review with a challenge system. So I'm not advocating for a challenge system, but if that's what FIFA's talking about, if that's what they're considering, then I would much rather have that than VAR if they do it right.
Are you not seeing how little VAR is involved this season ? Unless the ref has missed a clear and obvious then VAR will not intervene, but the vast majority of penalty decisions, red cards etc are left to the Refs discretion. Far better and exactly what fans have been calling for.
Yes its better BUT the criteria for clear and obvious is inconsistent Also we still have the long debates on VAR 4 mins to decide if a player is offside when it is clear that it is impossible to determine for sure from the evidence The Forrest goal, suddenly they decide it was off after nearly 4 mins then the lines popped up on the screen and it wasn't evident why there was a gapAre you not seeing how little VAR is involved this season ? Unless the ref has missed a clear and obvious then VAR will not intervene, but the vast majority of penalty decisions, red cards etc are left to the Refs discretion. Far better and exactly what fans have been calling for.
Wonder how they will manage that considering they struggled getting Lutons ground up to spec and had monthsNo, they’ve stated that if any lower league clubs gets drawn at home in the 5th and 6th rounds, they’ll make the ground VAR compatible especially for the occasion(s)
Wonder how they will manage that considering they struggled getting Lutons ground up to spec and had months
Referee's unfortunately have been conditioned into waiting for VAR and have become incapable of making difficult decisions in real time. So when VAR has take a 'step back' this season they don't what the fuck they're supposed to do.Are you not seeing how little VAR is involved this season ? Unless the ref has missed a clear and obvious then VAR will not intervene, but the vast majority of penalty decisions, red cards etc are left to the Refs discretion. Far better and exactly what fans have been calling for.
Apart from telling the ref to give you lot a ridiculous penalty on Monday nightAre you not seeing how little VAR is involved this season ? Unless the ref has missed a clear and obvious then VAR will not intervene, but the vast majority of penalty decisions, red cards etc are left to the Refs discretion. Far better and exactly what fans have been calling for.
Are you not seeing how little VAR is involved this season ? Unless the ref has missed a clear and obvious then VAR will not intervene, but the vast majority of penalty decisions, red cards etc are left to the Refs discretion. Far better and exactly what fans have been calling for.
Apart from telling the ref to give you lot a ridiculous penalty on Monday night
Wonder how they will manage that considering they struggled getting Lutons ground up to spec and had months
But he got it right with the first look then made it wrong with the second look How was it a clear an obvious error in the first place in any caseStill the refs decision ultimately and he had a look at the monitor and deemed it a pen. Right or wrong decision all I want is officials to not be making blind decisions and given a second look
But he got it right with the first look then made it wrong with the second look How was it a clear an obvious error in the first place in any case
Why only somethings get a second look surely you want it to be everything?
Brentford player did not appear to deliberately touch the ball, did not have his body in a position that was “unnaturally big” and was also in close proximity to the cross. That, plus the deflection consideration, should mean there was no possibility of a penalty. But then the VAR got involved.But it was a handball, and his hand was in an unnatural position, whilst I can see it deemed harsh by some as it only slightly changed the trajectory of the ball and it was minimal contact, under the laws of the game that's a handball and a penalty.
Brentford player did not appear to deliberately touch the ball, did not have his body in a position that was “unnaturally big” and was also in close proximity to the cross. That, plus the deflection consideration, should mean there was no possibility of a penalty. But then the VAR got involved.
We need to get rid of VAR not add more to it like challenges, there is so much wrong with this idea Let the officials get on with their job like they did for over a hundred years VAR has made things worse and the offsides taking 4 minutes to decide is frankly madness when it is clear that using videos with some bullshit tech to allow for parallax is shear madness Then the use of VAR to determine if there has been a clear and obvious error by a ref yet intakes five minutes of slow motion repeat and free frame to decide is a total contradiction. There are so many anomalies as to how it is used as well eg VAR cannot help with a two yellow card situation that leads to a red yet it looks at reds
The inch high Lino on Sunday taking ages to put his flag up, not his fault working under instruction
But we are stuck with it because its more money for the officials and extends their life in the job