VAR (PL introduction 2019)

[Bigga]

What is it 8/ 9-ish years since I first dropped an article on it, that M.E.N. robbed almost word for word(I will never forget, you CNUTS!)?

In those ensuing years I, and other, had a rolling battle with 'CBlue' (and others) who thought I/ we were out of my/ our collective minds.

This feels like a pebble falling in water, that turned from ripples to waves.

It feels weird that this is finally here.

One of the problems is it depends is making the decision in the studio.
For instance, take Fulham’s goal against the dippers that was ruled out for offside - Dermot Gallagher said it was just offside and Liverpool’s ball was hardly moving, so goal to Liverpool and tough shit to Fulham, whereas Mark Halsey on the radio said it was not offside. He also said that because it was a possible goal, the game would stop automatically so that the dippers would not have been able to restart and leg it down the other end to score from a moving ball.
So it just depends who the VAR ref is, but you’d think it will put a big stop to the likes of the rags & dippers.


CTID

VAR will not work and will need a revamp before to long? ?? how can you judge somebody deliberately handle the ball or deliberately fouled somebody from a video clip and again i revert back to the world cup when you seen 2 VAR for handball and clearly wrong ?? the ball can hit your arm or hand and not be handball and you can tackle and not be a foul
this is where VAR is wrong and does not work for me

yes for in or out of the box or offside or a clear error made by the ref who missed something in the game but for handball or fouls its going to be a joke

So, I've not yet read or heard any way that VAR is going to be implemented into the PL.

Yes, I agree that it will need a revamp before long if they're running it like the World Cup did.

This should be simplified. Two teams, 2 challenges each, control reverts back to the ref if challenges found to be unjustified.

It's not rocket science as this would negate all the shenanigans clubs/ managers will try for as the season progresses.

Maybe even sanctions for abuse of the system.

Fookin' do the right thing F.A.!!

 

[kaz7]

What is it 8/ 9-ish years since I first dropped an article on it, that M.E.N. robbed almost word for word(I will never forget, you CNUTS!)?

In those ensuing years I, and other, had a rolling battle with 'CBlue' (and others) who thought I/ we were out of my/ our collective minds.

This feels like a pebble falling in water, that turned from ripples to waves.

It feels weird that this is finally here.






So, I've not yet read or heard any way that VAR is going to be implemented into the PL.

Yes, I agree that it will need a revamp before long if they're running it like the World Cup did.

This should be simplified. Two teams, 2 challenges each, control reverts back to the ref if challenges found to be unjustified.

It's not rocket science as this would negate all the shenanigans clubs/ managers will try for as the season progresses.

Maybe even sanctions for abuse of the system.

Fookin' do the right thing F.A.!!

I read in a paper yesterday,it's how it worked in the world cup,no appeals from managers,pens,goals inc the build up and red cards

 

[Bigga]

I read in a paper yesterday,it's how it worked in the world cup,no appeals from managers,pens,goals inc the build up and red cards

Well, that makes it clear that the F.A. want this project to fail.

What happened in the World Cup showed the flaws it had when officials interrupted unnecessarily in matches.

Let the teams sort it out between them, let them get penalised and or sanctioned post game and let them learn the lessons quickly.

Anything else is hard work and convoluted.

I do not support the World Cup version of VAR.

 

[kaz7]

Well, that makes it clear that the F.A. want this project to fail.

What happened in the World Cup showed the flaws it had when officials interrupted unnecessarily in matches.

Let the teams sort it out between them, let them get penalised and or sanctioned post game and let them learn the lessons quickly.

Anything else is hard work and convoluted.

I do not support the World Cup version of VAR.

Tbf they have been using it in the cups from last season and have been using it for some prem games this season behind the scenes and have another 6 mths to go so they must be confident they have a working system,i just read it in the paper so i expect we will get more details later on

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I’m still concerned about the general flow of the game being undermined, but on balance (and overall) it’s preferable and also inevitable at some point and so I’d cautiously welcome this next season.

 

[andyhinch]

I’m still concerned about the general flow of the game being undermined, but on balance (and overall) it’s preferable and also inevitable at some point and so I’d cautiously welcome this next season.

It’s all going on how it’s going to be implemented and we won’t know until we see it in action, I just hope they get it right, confidant, not overly tbh.

 

[ancoats]

What is it 8/ 9-ish years since I first dropped an article on it, that M.E.N. robbed almost word for word(I will never forget, you CNUTS!)?

In those ensuing years I, and other, had a rolling battle with 'CBlue' (and others) who thought I/ we were out of my/ our collective minds.

This feels like a pebble falling in water, that turned from ripples to waves.

It feels weird that this is finally here.






So, I've not yet read or heard any way that VAR is going to be implemented into the PL.

Yes, I agree that it will need a revamp before long if they're running it like the World Cup did.

This should be simplified. Two teams, 2 challenges each, control reverts back to the ref if challenges found to be unjustified.

It's not rocket science as this would negate all the shenanigans clubs/ managers will try for as the season progresses.

Maybe even sanctions for abuse of the system.

Fookin' do the right thing F.A.!!

clear and obvious mistakes ????? in a football match the referee makes so many mistakes ?? that if VAR is used for everything the game would be about 5 hours long, and like i said how can you judge somebody hand balling when he is not looking at the ball and hits is arm or hand ??? or makes a strong tackle and the player gets hurt or falls over its not a foul video can not be used to see impact and meaning

look VAR is a good thing if used right and if it save somebody from losing a game and his job and the club millions of pounds then how can you say NO, put i feel its not going to be used right and will become a an event in itself, contact in football as now gone and VAR will take it to another level and touch will be now a foul, put your hand on somebody and its curtains use your body and its a foul block a run or fight for a ball in a 50/50 and a player goes down VAR will see something to question the referee to have a look at it

clear and obvious mistakes ??? you know what why take mistakes out of the game shit happens and if your a better team chances are you will have many chances to win the game in 90 minutes, so let us see how long it will take for VAR to make a clear and obvious mistakes and then football will be fucked, and what next ?? the changing of results and rematches being played because VAR fucked up managers being sacked and then getting there jobs back and clubs taking VAR to court

 

[SWP's back]

Well, that makes it clear that the F.A. want this project to fail.

Rubbish. It’s going to be implemented exactly how it’s been trialled and how it works in every other major league. Just because it’s not how you wish, doesn’t mean it will fail.

 

[Nascent Blues]

For me, VAR is simply about reducing the number of clear and obvious errors and mistakes to a minimum - and it will do this. It will not resolve every incident and there will still be a range of subjective calls to disagree over, but this is not a reason to kibosh it.

It's patently not acceptable that a goal scored whilst being two yards offside should stand when, almost instantly, it could be correctly ruled out using VAR.

I don't know what all the fuss is about.

 

[Bigga]

Rubbish. It’s going to be implemented exactly how it’s been trialled and how it works in every other major league. Just because it’s not how you wish, doesn’t mean it will fail.

It's not "rubbish", it's an opinion.

By and large, you could argue that the errors made with VAR in the World Cup overshadowed a great showcase of levelling the playing field i.e., not giving the Big Boys the benefit of the doubt.

The unnecessary introduction of eyes everywhere made the whole thing a farce. If THAT is the backbone of what the F.A. is going to be working off, then they are happy enough that complaints will have them shrugging their shoulders saying "This is what you wanted!" and they would be justified.

Why would they not allow the footballing to dictate the game? Tennis dictates the game and the ref has no reason to get involved beyond the black and white rules.

Tennis is all the better for the flow. If the ref interjected every single time the ball was on the line, we wouldn't have a game.

If refs have an opinion on tight calls, they will wait until a player questions it.

Only if the ball is clearly an error will he intervene.

Do you not see how much better that system is?