That could be a fair compromise. Although it would have to be a fairly big shadow area as Hello's post above explains. Something is needed because we can't keep seeing goals ruled out because of potential discrepancies in frame rates.- allow a ‘grey’ shadow area past the offside line - if a player is deemed offside but in the grey shadow and scores it should count.
and who's calibrating the offside lines on the VAR monitor? They only have to be half a degree out and offside person becomes onside or vice versa. Can City's groundstaff start mowing the pitch at a slight angle to make our forwards look onside?The point is, who decides those tight offside calls are correct. It's completely arbitrary, as the posts below explain.
The ref makes his decision or misses something, it’s checked by VAR, they can’t decide so send it back to the on field ref. First of all it can’t be clear and obvious if three people can’t decide and secondly if the ref has given (say) a penalty how many will think they were correct anyway and no matter how many times they see the replay they will stick with their original decision.It’s not the decision that’s bothering me. We all want the right decisions but not at the expense of the game being stopped for minutes at a time.
It’s the farcical way in which some decisions mean the ref has to run to the sideline to watch back a video the VAR panel have all already watched themselves. VAR should make the bloody decision.
If it takes as long as it’s taking with all this sideline stuff, yes, I’d rather just give the **** the penalty. He might miss it anyway. Ideally it’d be VAR that makes the decision and we wouldn’t have the circus of refs going to the sideline.
I've no problem with VAR correcting clear offside decisions. It's the one area of the game where I think it COULD be put to good use. But it can't possibly be relied on at the current frame rates for tight calls.It’s still better than the human eye which we know gets the margin of error wrong, way more than VAR - the technology for ‘frames per second’ will always improve and so will the accuracy, we get to see the decisions they are making , so if there’s is obvious corruption we can call it out - before VAR we just have to accept it. This is massive and certainly the way forward even if there’s a few millimetre decisions that don’t go your way.
I've no problem with VAR correcting clear offside decisions. It's the one area of the game where I think it COULD be put to good use. But it can't possibly be relied on at the current frame rates for tight calls.
The problem I have is that the authorities are pretending the current technology is conclusive. Until it is, there needs to be a margin for error built into it (which, to be fair, you've acknowledged in your previous post). A bit like what they do in cricket: if there's any potential for doubt they allow the goal to stand.
Totally agree but somehow I can't see refs issuing yellows and reds for simulation to the likes of Salah, hope I'm wrong though...Also obvious dives , so unfair on the ref to be conned by cheating players - now VAR will make them think twice and it will be sweet justice when the next Salah dive he gets punished for diving instead of being awarded a penalty.
Totally agree but somehow I can't see refs issuing yellows and reds for simulation to the likes of Salah, hope I'm wrong though...
Good point, I just wish it could go back to being a contact sport, it's getting to the stage where you literally cannot touch an opponent, even while tackling.... The game is being systematically dismantled to the point where it won't be worth watching in 20 years time ....Like most serial collapsers, Salah pretty much always has some form of contact from a defender putting his hands on him or kicking him, and guidelines have been that any form of contact means there shouldn't be a booking (I assume this is the idea that it's very difficult to be certain that the contact has not led to the fall).
The guidelines would need some changes for bookings to be more common. Having said that, there are some obvious ones where the ref doesn't book them anyway.