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VAR Thread - 2021/22
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NorthamptonBlue
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That's because rugby isn't bent. It's played fairly by honest blokes not throwing themselves to the floor trying to gain their team an advantage. The VAR is also an open mic. The total opposite to that we have.
And dodgy incidents are shown on the big screens so the fans can keep amused. All adds to the atmosphere. It’s a tricky game to ref so the officials are given some slack by players and fans. Not Dan Biggar mind, he’s a right gobby git in the refs ear all game.
The clock would stop though wouldn’t it and time get added on?we have a VAR thread so this should be moved accordingly. I like your rule proposal but what if a Manager is allowed 3 challenges and hasn't used them with 5 mins to go - you would have some using it purely to time waste, want to challenge a throw in decision etc, could get messy
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someone just made a very good point on five live... that 2nd liecester goal... in the on-field refs opinion it wasnt a foul. But then it goes to VAR and the 2nd ref (WTF) basically awards the foul and therefore no goal.
1 - How many refs are refereeing the game?
2 - Its a subjective decision (IE its not an offside or handball). One mans foul is another mans toughtackle. (IE how many refs do they have to go through until one of them says foul?)
3 - Its clearly an anomoly in the decision making but if thats City they would be changing the rules right now
4 - VAR has actually made decision making actually worse actually.
1 - How many refs are refereeing the game?
2 - Its a subjective decision (IE its not an offside or handball). One mans foul is another mans toughtackle. (IE how many refs do they have to go through until one of them says foul?)
3 - Its clearly an anomoly in the decision making but if thats City they would be changing the rules right now
4 - VAR has actually made decision making actually worse actually.
VAR is fundamentally flawed as it’s still a human making as you say a subjective decision. Just from a different perspective it still allows for error and more importantly corruption in a hitherto unseen scale. It’s fucking bullshitsomeone just made a very good point on five live... that 2nd liecester goal... in the on-field refs opinion it wasnt a foul. But then it goes to VAR and the 2nd ref (WTF) basically awards the foul and therefore no goal.
1 - How many refs are refereeing the game?
2 - Its a subjective decision (IE its not an offside or handball). One mans foul is another mans toughtackle. (IE how many refs do they have to go through until one of them says foul?)
3 - Its clearly an anomoly in the decision making but if thats City they would be changing the rules right now
4 - VAR has actually made decision making actually worse actually.
To shorten your post :-) where was the clear and obvious error? Remember Bournemouth away a couple of seasons back, someone stood on David Silvas foot. The ref didn't give a penalty and we were told there was no clear and obvious error so VAR didn't intervene.someone just made a very good point on five live... that 2nd liecester goal... in the on-field refs opinion it wasnt a foul. But then it goes to VAR and the 2nd ref (WTF) basically awards the foul and therefore no goal.
1 - How many refs are refereeing the game?
2 - Its a subjective decision (IE its not an offside or handball). One mans foul is another mans toughtackle. (IE how many refs do they have to go through until one of them says foul?)
3 - Its clearly an anomoly in the decision making but if thats City they would be changing the rules right now
4 - VAR has actually made decision making actually worse actually.
That was not a foul by Nacho.
manimanc
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Thought I'd put this in here as it's an ex ref and he touches the subject of VAR Slightly.
Jeff Winters is the ref, I found him really funny.
richardtheref
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I have been to numerous training courses & they will show footage of a certain incident. They will then ask if it was a foul or not and half will say yes the other half no. They will then show another clip and ask red card, yellow card or no action and again the room will be split.someone just made a very good point on five live... that 2nd liecester goal... in the on-field refs opinion it wasnt a foul. But then it goes to VAR and the 2nd ref (WTF) basically awards the foul and therefore no goal.
1 - How many refs are refereeing the game?
2 - Its a subjective decision (IE its not an offside or handball). One mans foul is another mans toughtackle. (IE how many refs do they have to go through until one of them says foul?)
3 - Its clearly an anomoly in the decision making but if thats City they would be changing the rules right now
4 - VAR has actually made decision making actually worse actually.
So, when it comes to VAR & fouls, I think it depends on who is viewing it. Mike Dean might say foul & Michael Oliver might say nothing happening. It really is luck. As you said VAR should be used for none subjective decisions.
I have said that, if it's going to be used as it is, then the ref should only be allowed to watch it at normal speed for a maximum of a minute and then have to make a decision. The 1 last night they showed him a still picture and slow motion or a still can always look worse.