VAR thread 2022/23

[Bozo]

Fuck VAR. Sooner it's out of the game, the better.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

'No one knows what constitutes handball anymore'.
I agree with you. The obvious answer is Var should not be used.
I accept TV cameras make it harder but every schoolboy knew what handball was. A deliberate motion of the arm to block the ball. Why did the suits ever think they needed to change it ?
We know have the stupid spectacle of a player trying to stay on his feet whilst holding 2 hands behind his back.

I don’t really disagree, but like all things under the microscope a line needs to be drawn somewhere.

The right balance hasn’t been found as of yet.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Fucked the game over, owned the ref on the pitch.

 

[Blue Mist]

Soooooooo the referee on the pitch saw nothing wrong in the build up to Rodri's goal. The referee in the Var cupboard did.

The handball rules were last changed in 2021. Uefa stated that if a person accidentally commits handball and then scores, it should be ruled out. If however there is an accidental handball by another player in the build up, the goal should stand.
No one, apart from the Var official, would ever say the Mahrez (very slight) touch was deliberate.
This shows why Var is wrong in every shape and form. The Var official was wrong but also able to persuade (force) the on field referee to also make a huge mistake. Var was meant to eliminate errors but when you have officials who are simply not good enough, but have huge power to influence the game, the errors will simply continue.
Those that defend Var often quote the Milner 2 yards offside farce as a reason why it should stay. That one absolutely farcical mistake should not mean football fans have to accept regular stupid decisions, week in, week out.

 

[Bluekiwi]

Just watched some highlights and I gave up after I saw Gomez's sending off as a result of VAR. The two handball decisions earlier were again stupid. The ball in both instances accidentally hit the arm. It seems the VAR official had been given a brown envelope to seriously influence the game. Don't know who the commentators were but their consensus was that VAR has completely ruined the game.
As for Mahrez's penalty he should have gone to the other side where he usually puts them. The goalie knew where it went last week so he opted to go that way, made a fine save because Mahrez had obliged.

 

[Phil1]

Only the most tedious bores are still defending this shit show.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Only the most tedious bores are still defending this shit show.

tedious is having a tantrum and screaming ‘’it’s killed football’’ whenever you have a bad decision

 

[GaudinoMotors]

tedious is having a tantrum and screaming ‘’it’s killed football’’ whenever you have a bad decision

Lol - you really are something.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Fucked the game over, owned the ref on the pitch.

It really did.Made the Ref look a proper ****,well out of his depth.

The entire game needs a huge overhaul.....take it back to basics,it was so much better for it.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Fuck VAR. Sooner it's out of the game, the better.

I'm beginning to think the same, we'd get less controversy anyway. We'd also get less decisions being made which I think var has brought, so many tiny little rules and decisions that just don't need looking at. Micro- management is spoiling it quite a bit.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Just watched some highlights and I gave up after I saw Gomez's sending off as a result of VAR. The two handball decisions earlier were again stupid. The ball in both instances accidentally hit the arm. It seems the VAR official had been given a brown envelope to seriously influence the game. Don't know who the commentators were but their consensus was that VAR has completely ruined the game.
As for Mahrez's penalty he should have gone to the other side where he usually puts them. The goalie knew where it went last week so he opted to go that way, made a fine save because Mahrez had obliged.

Gomez did foul him though. Tbh I thought that was a good use of var.

 

[its grim up north]

Subjective in which ways?

Whether it's a goal scoring opportunity.

 

[inchy14]

Well if I went on a West Ham forum and droned on and on and on about VAR and Gareth Fucking Southgate I would expect to get slung off.

Why? He can post about what the fuck he wants. If you want an echo chamber then Bluemoon isn’t for you I’m afraid.

Oh and I disagree with a lot @BlueHammer85 posts but he like everyone else is entitled to their viewpoint.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Why? He can post about what the fuck he wants. If you want an echo chamber then Bluemoon isn’t for you I’m afraid.

Oh and I disagree with a lot @BlueHammer85 posts but he like everyone else is entitled to their viewpoint.

He is - but he should also be able to put up with the onslaught for his constant defending the indefensible in the light of all the contrary evidence - instead of belittling it as "knee jerk" or objecting to being "tagged".

 

[kaz7]

I don’t go down the corruption road , seen as every club including United/Liverpool feel hard done by with VAR and officials - but certainly can’t dispute your main point of transparency and having us hear officials reasoning although I’m not sure that will totally satisfy - but Rugby does seem to showing how it can work.

Did you watch our game last night or are you trolling blind again?

 

[inchy14]

'No one knows what constitutes handball anymore'.
I agree with you. The obvious answer is Var should not be used.
I accept TV cameras make it harder but every schoolboy knew what handball was. A deliberate motion of the arm to block the ball. Why did the suits ever think they needed to change it ?
We know have the stupid spectacle of a player trying to stay on his feet whilst holding 2 hands behind his back.

And if that’s not an ‘unnatural position’ I don’t know what is.

 

[inchy14]

He is - but he should also be able to put up with the onslaught for his constant defending the indefensible in the light of all the contrary evidence - instead of belittling it as "knee jerk" or objecting to being "tagged".

To be fair why should he or anyone else who’s in favour of VAR get tagged anyway, I’m still 50/50 on it and actually think it’d be fine if they would let us see and hear what they were saying, and I mean at the time not afterwards.
Nothing can be said about those decisions last night, the Ref should have known the correct rules and awarded Rhodri’s goal, the second handball was a farce and as for him not showing the red straight away shows how out of his depth he actually was.

 

[mosssideblue]

Whether it's a goal scoring opportunity.

Understand, but my point comparing it to how cricket (and rugby) apply it relates to the public seeing the replays whilst listening to the conversation between VAR officials and ref.

At the moment, football is a closed shop with Stockley Pk and the Ref being the only participants.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I just don’t have the energy to howl at the moon about stuff I can’t affect.

But you've got plenty of time and energy to have ago at people who do?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

But you've got plenty of time and energy to have ago at people who do?

Could you point out where I’ve had a go at anyone in this thread?