VAR thread 2022/23

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BlueHammer85 said:
I’ll never accept this argument - more matches were ruined before VAR than they are now - fair enough if you recall it differently
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the fucking point is they shouldn't be being ruined by VAR, it isn't meant to make a mistake like a ref can during a live split-second decision.

Now we have people manipulating decisions when it suits them, not the ones you mention that serve your purpose to mention but you can't or won't acknowledge the use of VAR as an aid to cheat like yesterday, Wolves cheated twice, blatantly cheated.

Also, Liverpool and manutd should have been ordered to put up the same technology as every other prem club, there should not be a two-tiered system of technology and especially not at those two grounds, grounds where the refs have been biased towards the home team for 30 years.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
Whats the betting.... Before todays game that there will be a VAR controversy in it.

And before VAR how sure were we there would be a REF controversy? I suspect less.
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Not so sure. Has happened before that after a high-profile VAR cock-up we were expecting another classic biased performance, only to see it be perfect. I suspect they will be on best behaviour tonight and we will all say how well the ref did .....

Also, City through or Chelsea thorough doesn't make much difference to the powers that be.

Let's see.

Not that turning it on or off as they want isn't a problem, of course.
 
blueinsa said:
Sky the broadcaster and Sky the bookmakers complicit you say?

Well I never....
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Although, to be fair, they’re nothing to do with each other, whatsoever. Sky bet is owned by Paddy Power and Betfair owners Flutter Entertainment. They effectively took it on when they bought the Stars Group, the previous owners of Sky Bet who bought it from CVC Capital (Sky were then 20% stakeholders) in 2018.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Although, to be fair, they’re nothing to do with each other, whatsoever. Sky bet is owned by Paddy Power and Betfair owners Flutter Entertainment. They effectively took it on when they bought the Stars Group, the previous owners of Sky Bet who bought it from CVC Capital (Sky were then 20% stakeholders) in 2018.
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Did not know that, thanks for the info.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Without VAR they can magically give penalty’s though - just point to the spot whenever a tussle from a corner or give a penalty when Salah decides to dive - as was happening pre VAR

I accept there is technical flaws and wrong decisions which will forever happen - I’m not convinced pure corruption solely to benefit Liverpool and Man Utd exists - I’m yet to be swayed despite the odd decision that goes there way - that’s not me being a wum by the way - just feel it would have to involve dozens and dozens of officials and one of them would openly spill the beans by now. All for corruption to be closely scrutinised by fans though
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I think people forget the awful decisions that were being given prior to VAR. Take Newcastles goal last night, miles offside. VAR gets a lot more right than it gets wrong.
 
Been dredging this thread a bit but what's the verdict re Salah's offside decision/goal? Is this one of those unfathomable modern reinterpretations of offside where active and passive change when a defender hits it? I remember City scored one like this with Mings (?) as defender and it was something to do with passages of play.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Not so sure. Has happened before that after a high-profile VAR cock-up we were expecting another classic biased performance, only to see it be perfect. I suspect they will be on best behaviour tonight and we will all say how well the ref did .....

Also, City through or Chelsea thorough doesn't make much difference to the powers that be.

Let's see.

Not that turning it on or off as they want isn't a problem, of course.
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Yeah, though I am not talking powers that be, just the point that VAR is more controversial than no VAR. and I am sure there were a catalogue of erros over a recent weekend with VAR, match after match in one w/e.

My bet is that there will be, in fact I'd go as far as saying there is one VAR controversy every 2 matches but thats just a feeling. Actually maybe its every 4 or 5 games.
 
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The Future’s Blue! said:
There maybe the odd case over the years but if that was the case it would be on the PL/PGMOL/FA/FA off to ensure that said official is brought to book.

As we’ve seen time and time again, they are there the very next game.
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I was talking about the heads at the top of PL/PGMOL/FA/FA, the referee and VAR officials are working under orders from them, do as you're told, or you will be work for the EFL or shipped off to China or India
 
shemnel said:
Been dredging this thread a bit but what's the verdict re Salah's offside decision/goal? Is this one of those unfathomable modern reinterpretations of offside where active and passive change when a defender hits it? I remember City scored one like this with Mings (?) as defender and it was something to do with passages of play.
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Totally different scenarios though, the Liverpool one was a cross aimed at Salah who was offside, it should not be then classed as a new passage of play when it arrives at him via a defenders header, he was the target and therefore offside.

From memory, a Villa player passed it to Mings Bernardo was behind him and then Mings fucked up and Bernardo stole the ball and was away but I am willing to be corrected on this.
 
Hart of the Matter said:
Because the year pre VAR (the previous highest) there wasa season average of 38k per match for the prem... Last season it was 39k ...
However, Tottenham have increased capacity by 20k per home match and , Huddersfield, West Brom, Swansea and Watford have all been replaced by much bigger supported clubs in Aston Villa, Leeds, Nots Forest and Wolves.
The overall ground capacity has risen by 44k per week but attendance by less than 1k. Grounds are therefore less full with bigger supported clubs in the league..
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Good work
 
Bluesince1979 said:
This could be down to easier access to fire sticks etc. i wouldnt dream of having a sky subscription
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Anyone paying for the utter trash that Sky has become must be mad A shadow of its former years but for the last 5 or so a complete box ticking shambles Fk them AND BT
 
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