According to Dermot on Monday, Mendy being injured on the floor was one of his theories as to why your goal didn’t stand as the game should be stopped.so De Gea laying on the floor injured for ages before Arsenal scored ... You're saying there would have been uproar had the ref just simply stopped the game to get him some medical help - a few arsenal players might have moaned but not many would batter an eye lid
I accept that they should use technology, but we absolutely shouldn't be accepting crap VAR decisions. If we don't call them out on it nothing will ever change.Fair enough, but then you should really be challenging those who say VAR was solely bought in by PL to manipulate results and set an agenda to benefit the top 6 (without Man City)
As you say, they had no choice but to bring in VAR - so everyone should accept that decision and find ways for making it improve
Aren’t there 29 cameras to calibrate in this new system? That must help accuracy.I accept that they should use technology, but we absolutely shouldn't be accepting crap VAR decisions. If we don't call them out on it nothing will ever change.
It was brought in with good intentions, but like with everything there will always be those who will seek to use the situation to their advantage either by bending/blurring/breaking the rules, or just plain old cheating and lying.
With VAR in its current guise there are flaws in the system (mainly the human in the loop) that can be exploited. With a human in the loop system there will always be an element of variance in any decision making process (without factoring in conscious/unconscious bias). Then you have the issue of the video frame rates and offside decisions as to when the pass was made which can have a huge impact on the on/offside decision. Yes, they are attempting to address this with an accelerometer in the ball to determine the exact moment a pass is made which 'should' make it more accurate, but its still a 50fps camera system which needs long and careful calibration and if you knock a single camera during the game it throws the calibration out and invalidates any subsequent measurements.
Basically it boils down to the fact that there is opportunity and motive for 'individuals' to manipulate the system, and where there is opportunity, there will ALWAYS be someone motivated to try and exploit it. I personally think it's naive to believe VAR hasn't been used nefariously during its 4 years in operation, but on what scale I couldn't say.
Where was this 'pressure' coming from?Regardless of whether VAR is being used to attempt to manipulate certain match outcomes or not, we need to put to bed this ridiculous “why bring in VAR at all” debate point.
Because they had to bring it in. They had held out longer than every other major sport in the world (in some cases, literally decades after video review was adopted elsewhere; and when I say “they” I mean FIFA, that great bastion of transparency and incorruptibility).
This was not a matter of “they could have just not brought it in”. That was not an option. There was far too much pressure from every conceivable direction. At that point, *not* bringing it in would have caused more suspicion and eventual scrutiny than bringing it in.
And one of the main arguments for it very likely being used as a tool for attempted manipulation—apart from the many dubious (non)decisions across seasons—is the way they chose to design and implement the system when they finally did bring it in. That is, in one of the least transparent, most difficult to scrutinise ways possible.
They’ve even made it *less* transparent this year in the PL.
So, again, can we not stop asking that stupid question, as if football could have legitimately held out indefinitely as the only major sport on earth without video review, at a time where nearly every person has a HD camera in their pocket and/or access to a global network of HD cameras at their fingertips?
There is a system of cameras. You can't calibrate a single camera without knowing the calibration data for the rest of the system. If you knock one camera then it effects the system as a whole.Aren’t there 29 cameras to calibrate in this new system? That must help accuracy.
Sure, but surely with less impact than with fewer cameras.There is a system of cameras. You can't calibrate a single camera without knowing the calibration data for the rest of the system. If you knock one camera then it effects the system as a whole.
Bollocks!! Everyone would have been in uproar about it. Except rag twats obviously.so De Gea laying on the floor injured for ages before Arsenal scored ... You're saying there would have been uproar had the ref just simply stopped the game to get him some medical help - a few arsenal players might have moaned but not many would batter an eye lid
Pancake.so De Gea laying on the floor injured for ages before Arsenal scored ... You're saying there would have been uproar had the ref just simply stopped the game to get him some medical help - a few arsenal players might have moaned but not many would batter an eye lid
And he's right.
Once the calibration is out any measurement is invalid.Sure, but surely with less impact than with fewer cameras.