VAR thread 2022/23

[stonerblue]

In short no it isnt. Touching the ball has little relevance to whether a foul has taken place. The french player clatters the Moroccan recklessly. Impeding him accordingly. Not sure how some dont see that as a foul/penalty. It certainly is according to the current laws of the game.

Funny how var can make some people blind..

 

[halfcenturyup]

In short no it isnt. Touching the ball has little relevance to whether a foul has taken place. The french player clatters the Moroccan recklessly. Impeding him accordingly. Not sure how some dont see that as a foul/penalty. It certainly is according to the current laws of the game.

That's what I thought. It just seems like one of these lazy pundit comments when they don't actually understand what they are talking about.

 

[Stephen230]

In short no it isnt. Touching the ball has little relevance to whether a foul has taken place. The french player clatters the Moroccan recklessly. Impeding him accordingly. Not sure how some dont see that as a foul/penalty. It certainly is according to the current laws of the game.

Touching the ball certainly doesn’t allow you to follow through with the tackle with impunity. But it’s almost certainly the justification the VAR used to decide the referee hadn’t made a clear error.

It was the same VAR who advised a penalty for Saudi Arabia against Portugal though and it certainly looked more of a penalty than that one did.

 

[Bluearmy]

Touching the ball certainly doesn’t allow you to follow through with the tackle with impunity. But it’s almost certainly the justification the VAR used to decide the referee hadn’t made a clear error.

It was the same VAR who advised a penalty for Saudi Arabia against Portugal though and it certainly looked more of a penalty than that one did.

Of course the ref made a clear error, in fact 2 of them. He gave a foul against the moroccan player for having the audacity to get smashed. Then doubled down by booked him for god knows what, being on the pitch maybe….??

 

[Stephen230]

Of course the ref made a clear error, in fact 2 of them. He gave a foul against the moroccan player for having the audacity to get smashed. Then doubled down by booked him for god knows what, being on the pitch maybe….??

I didn’t say it wasn’t an error. The VAR has no jurisdiction to advise overturning the yellow card once he’s decided not to recommend a review of the penalty.

 

[Blue Mist]

I didn’t say it wasn’t an error. The VAR has no jurisdiction to advise overturning the yellow card once he’s decided not to recommend a review of the penalty.

Which means if it had been his second yellow he'd have been sent off. Its not really that good is it this var thing.

Edit: I see Morocco have now made an official complaint about that incident and the one where a forward was hauled down in the area, no penalty given and no var intervention.

 

[Stephen230]

Which means if it had been his second yellow he'd have been sent off. Its not really that good is it this var thing.

Edit: I see Morocco have now made an official complaint about that incident and the one where a forward was hauled down in the area, no penalty given and no var intervention.

That seems to suggest you’re advocating VARs powers are widened to get involved in a wider range of incidents?

 

[halfcenturyup]

That seems to suggest you’re advocating VARs powers are widened to get involved in a wider range of incidents?

Or maybe that they should at least get the right outcome on the limited number of incidents they want to look at? Isn't that the point of VAR. To get decisions right? The Kane non-penalty against France was another one. OK, VAR couldn't overturn the referee's decision with a definite proof that the incident was on the line, but shouldn't they be allowed to award the free-kick just outside the box? Seems ludicrous that they can only allow a decision to be half right.

 

[Blue Mist]

That seems to suggest you’re advocating VARs powers are widened to get involved in a wider range of incidents?

I'm not advocating anything. I think it's a crock of shit and the more they try and fix it, the worse it gets.
The world's biggest football competition. The semi-final. Supposedly the best in charge and yet.......

 

[Stephen230]

Or maybe that they should at least get the right outcome on the limited number of incidents they want to look at? Isn't that the point of VAR. To get decisions right? The Kane non-penalty against France was another one. OK, VAR couldn't overturn the referee's decision with a definite proof that the incident was on the line, but shouldn't they be allowed to award the free-kick just outside the box? Seems ludicrous that they can only allow a decision to be half right.

That’s a personal opinion. Opponents to that would probably say that the VAR giving free kicks that the referee has missed is getting away from correcting mistakes on major issues and veering into ‘re-refereeing the game ‘ territory.