A couple of seasons back, a team, can't remember who but they were fighting relegation, scored a perfectly good goal BUT, the refs watch didn't bleep so he did not award it. It was later stated the keeper was obscuring the camera. There are no sensors (to my knowledge)Seems the camera system is the favoured one but there is also a sensor system.
I don't mean together (sensor and camear). SWP posted article a bit backA couple of seasons back, a team, can't remember who but they were fighting relegation, scored a perfectly good goal BUT, the refs watch didn't bleep so he did not award it. It was later stated the keeper was obscuring the camera. There are no sensors (to my knowledge)
Edit 14 cameras mounted on the stadium roof according to fifa.com
The first penalty came from VAR, but only because the ref, who was looking straight at it didn't give it for some inexplicable reason.VAR did good by us though yesterday we can all agree.
Why wasn't the offside marginal? It looks to be close enough in the image you've shown? Being 30 yards away from the ball doesn't stop you being offside.Conspiracy brigade? All we are doing is trying to find credible explanations from the evidence before us.
1. The corner taker wasn't offside at any point. Any competent referee's assistant will know that being in an offside position isn't the same as being offside. He was in an offside position for the first header (unsurprising really, as he had just taken the corner). But he was at least 30 yards away from the ball, and the ball stayed in front of the goal.
2. He was in an onside position when the second header was made.
3. He was not offside at any point during that attack.
4. Given he wasn't offside, why was he flagged offside? Why is nobody asking the linesman why he interpreted this as offside? He should be punished for making such basic errors.
5. What was the signal from Madley to his linesman?
6. Why didn't the linesman signal for offside until after Madley gave this gesture with his hand.
7. Why did the linesman appear to go towards the centre of the pitch, and change his mind after he saw the signal from Madley.
8. Can we hear the conversations between officials, if they have nothing to hide.
These are all genuine concerns, that PGMOL and other governing bodies are ignoring. It screams BENT.
All we have from them is that there wasn't enough video evidence to overturn the original decision, as if the offside decision in itself was marginal. It wasn't. As I said above, no competent assistant referee would have deemed that as offside.
This, coupled with the “clear and obvious error” threshold, is arguably the biggest issue with VAR.No. Thanks to Var the refs dont need to make important decisions, they simply wait for Var. Why give a decision and then look stupid when Var overturn it, just leave it to someone else to do the hardwork.
That cannot be right. Once you decide you don't need to be mentally alert you are on a downward slope.
No. Thanks to Var the refs dont need to make important decisions, they simply wait for Var. Why give a decision and then look stupid when Var overturn it, just leave it to someone else to do the hardwork.
That cannot be right. Once you decide you don't need to be mentally alert you are on a downward slope.
If it was clear and obvious…so before VAR, refs would of gave that decision to City ?
As they used to say years ago "he took the lace out of it".The first penalty came from VAR, but only because the ref, who was looking straight at it didn't give it for some inexplicable reason.
Conspiracy brigade? All we are doing is trying to find credible explanations from the evidence before us.
1. The corner taker wasn't offside at any point. Any competent referee's assistant will know that being in an offside position isn't the same as being offside. He was in an offside position for the first header (unsurprising really, as he had just taken the corner). But he was at least 30 yards away from the ball, and the ball stayed in front of the goal.
2. He was in an onside position when the second header was made.
3. He was not offside at any point during that attack.
4. Given he wasn't offside, why was he flagged offside? Why is nobody asking the linesman why he interpreted this as offside? He should be punished for making such basic errors.
5. What was the signal from Madley to his linesman?
6. Why didn't the linesman signal for offside until after Madley gave this gesture with his hand.
7. Why did the linesman appear to go towards the centre of the pitch, and change his mind after he saw the signal from Madley.
8. Can we hear the conversations between officials, if they have nothing to hide.
These are all genuine concerns, that PGMOL and other governing bodies are ignoring. It screams BENT.
All we have from them is that there wasn't enough video evidence to overturn the original decision, as if the offside decision in itself was marginal. It wasn't. As I said above, no competent assistant referee would have deemed that as offside.