VAR thread 2022/23

[Hart of the Matter]

I've said for a while that the only way to get everybody onside (no pun intended) with VAR is to broadcast what the officials and the VAR team are saying verbatim... Then there is nothing hidden, we know what they say and we know (or hear at least) the justification for decisions... Then we can argue the toss when things are as blatant as us v the rags and today in the Brighton game

The rags one didn't go to VAR..
Most decisions by VAR never get to the point of discussing with Ref. Most made on hoof.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

I voted for "No change."

I'm a huge proponent for VAR - but it's got a long, long way to go.

Officials not being able to call offsides immediately is a huge issue. Another huge issue - every time a goal is scored there's doubt - is it going to be called off by VAR? - is it really a goal - a nervous celebration at best.\

Eventually VAR will improve to eliminate these concerns - it will be obvious, transparent, replays showing why calls were made will be instantly available, and the game will be better for it.

Right now - VAR is a technology in infancy - and is in much need of improvement.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

I voted for "No change."

I'm a huge proponent for VAR - but it's got a long, long way to go.

Officials not being able to call offsides immediately is a huge issue. Another huge issue - every time a goal is scored there's doubt - is it going to be called off by VAR? - is it really a goal - a nervous celebration at best.\

Eventually VAR will improve to eliminate these concerns - it will be obvious, transparent, replays showing why calls were made will be instantly available, and the game will be better for it.

Right now - VAR is a technology in infancy - and is in much need of improvement.

Var as a system is not the problem. It's being run by the same inept officials as are on the pitch, that is the problem.

 

[Stephen230]

How does miked up work if VAR don't even review?
Will they only broadcast discussions once VAR needs to discuss with ref?
What about all those quick decisions that never get communicated back in the first place?
This will make little difference.

From what I read last week, the only things they’re going to announce are when there’s been a VAR overturn. Which don’t happen very often.

Should have happened twice in that Brighton game though. The Robertson one was probably just on the right side of being left to the onfield decision.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Var as a system is not the problem. It's being run by the same inept officials as are on the pitch, that is the problem.

Agree.

But that's going to change. VAR is going to hand down a decision to the refs on the field to enforce - no second guessing. 4 to 10 years out IMO - but this is going to happen.

 

[Bowyers Sausages]

If the communicated with the crowd/viewing audience it wouldn't be a problem.

Would almost make you think they were the most likely to benefit.

A non league referee I know attended an evening dinner at which a premier league referee gave a talk. This was about 5 years ago. He confirmed that of all the teams in the premier league, only two objected to the implementation of VAR.
The non league referee asked me who I thought these two teams were, and he actually looked surprised when I correctly told him United and LiVARpool.

 

[Bluemanc100]

The rags one didn't go to VAR..
Most decisions by VAR never get to the point of discussing with Ref. Most made on hoof.

Mic up officials in all games, VAR is not totally relevant

It works in rugby so why not football

 

[Stephen230]

A non league referee I know attended an evening dinner at which a premier league referee gave a talk. This was about 5 years ago. He confirmed that of all the teams in the premier league, only two objected to the implementation of VAR.
The non league referee asked me who I thought these two teams were, and he actually looked surprised when I correctly told him United and LiVARpool.

This isn’t true. It’s a matter of record that all 20 Premier League clubs unanimously voted for the introduction of VAR.

 

[Gordyola]

The rags one didn't go to VAR..
Most decisions by VAR never get to the point of discussing with Ref. Most made on hoof.

Every goal is checked by VAR the ref would have been told that Rashford was in an office position that nothing else was wrong The ref probably asked VAR if he touched the ball he checked with the Lino then made his wrong decision that Rashford wasnt interfering with play VAR under the current remit couldn’t do any more

Edited for typo wasnt not was

 

[Gray]

Every goal is checked by VAR the ref would have been told that Rashford was in an office position that nothing else was wrong The ref probably asked VAR if he touched the ball he checked with the Lino then made his wrong decision that Rashford was interfering with play VAR under the current remit couldn’t do any more

If he thought that Rashford was interfering with play (you said that) then why wasn’t the goal disallowed?

 

[bondsman]

I voted for "No change."

I'm a huge proponent for VAR - but it's got a long, long way to go.

Officials not being able to call offsides immediately is a huge issue. Another huge issue - every time a goal is scored there's doubt - is it going to be called off by VAR? - is it really a goal - a nervous celebration at best.\

Eventually VAR will improve to eliminate these concerns - it will be obvious, transparent, replays showing why calls were made will be instantly available, and the game will be better for it.

Right now - VAR is a technology in infancy - and is in much need of improvement.

How will it ever remove human judgement? If it doesn’t (and I don’t see how it can) it’s pointless.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

We have all seen that the officials and VAR are not fit for purpose, unless you are looking for an outcome that is outside of the integrity of the game.

 

[Franny 1234]

It will never work when it's mate's checking out each others mistakes.
You scratch my back and I will scratch yours.

 

[SWP's back]

The poll should ask if there are more correct decisions now, post VAR implementation, or fewer.

 

[Blue Budgie]

As pigmol run it as it is now var is simply not fit for purpose. It's actually becoming more blatantly bent every week. Seeing that Fabinho decision today sums it all up-a straight red every day of the week unless you play for one of the 2 cheeks of the same arse.

 

[SebastianBlue]

The poll should ask if there are more correct decisions now, post VAR implementation, or fewer.

That’s a separate question, which can be a separate poll.

Though, I am not sure much would be learned by a poll for a largely empirical question.

I suppose gauging the perception would be interesting, especially in the context of the last few weeks of VAR interventions (or lack there of).

 

[Stephen230]

It will never work when it's mate's checking out each others mistakes.
You scratch my back and I will scratch yours.

But pretending a mate hasn’t made a fuck up and telling him he’s right, isn’t really scratching his back. It’s magnifying his ( and your ) mistake.

 

[SWP's back]

That’s a separate question, which can be a separate poll.

Though, I am not sure much would be learned by a poll for a largely empirical question.

I suppose gauging the perception would be interesting, especially in the context of the last few weeks of VAR interventions (or lack there of).

I just feel it’s the more important question. Whilst I’d prefer the bloke in the middle to get everything correct first time, I’m much more bothered about the correct decision being given in the end.

 

[blueju]

But pretending a mate hasn’t made a fuck up and telling him he’s right, isn’t really scratching his back. It’s magnifying his ( and your ) mistake.

But it doesn’t matter if the whole world sees, they answer to no one.

 

[cheekybids]

I’m a fan of VAR as it highlights corruption. Previously we were told it was missed or the angle, now we know it’s out & out corruption.

Keep it & shame the fucking cunts & one day it will all come out.