Veganism

[BlueTangerine]

Where's this evidence?

Well if I post a study saying we need zero meat, you could find 3 more saying meat is essential I am sure. It changes all the time. I shouldn't have used it as an argument, I apologize.

 

[BlueTangerine]

Only if you call yourself a wet, limp handwringing busy ****. For balance b

I can live with that.

 

[Sir peace frog]

its not what you eat bluetangerine its being called whatever that is getting on peoples tits with this thread(very good thread as well),I think its hard to judge people on the internet, however I like your strong attitude, putting what you think for all to see and question,well done .

 

[SWP's back]

I can live with that.

Lol

 

[SWP's back]

Well if I post a study saying we need zero meat, you could find 3 more saying meat is essential I am sure. It changes all the time. I shouldn't have used it as an argument, I apologize.

You said people are healthier without meat. I would state there is no peer reviewed studies or consensus to back that up.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

You said people are healthier without meat. I would state there is no peer reviewed studies or consensus to back that up.

That's because there fucking isn't and he's talking through his fucking arse.

 

[west didsblue]

OK, but do you honestly only buy organic animal products? What about all these products on the shelves that contain gelatine, lactose etc. You can bet they those are not organically farmed.

Nope.

I was responding to the point made by the OP that factory farmed animals are tortured and that is why we should be Vegans. I was pointing out that there is an alternative to factory farmed produce for those that object to factory farming.

In fact the OP seems to have changed his argument throughout this thread. He started by saying that we should be Vegans because animals feel pain. He didn't respond to the point that the slaughter process was designed to minimise pain and it was arguable whether the animals experienced pain at all during the process.

He then moved on to saying that we should be Vegans because animals have feelings with no evidence to support this claim.

I've no problem if people want to be Vegetarians or Vegans because they believe these things but to say it's the only logical outcome if you consider the "facts" is utter bollocks because he hasn't actually produced any facts and saying people are selfish twats if they eat meat is just fucking stupid.

Personally I think farm animals just have instincts rather than intelligent thought and for this reason I have no problem eating them if they are humanely slaughtered.

 

[andyhinch]

That's because there fucking isn't and he's talking through his fucking arse.

Concise and to the point, we have evolved ovneverous it gives you a clue

 

[BlueTangerine]

That's because there fucking isn't and he's talking through his fucking arse.

http://freefromharm.org/health-nutr...cience-burying-the-humans-need-meat-argument/

In 2009, the American Academy of Nutrition & Dietetics, the U.S.’s oldest, largest and foremost authority on diet and nutrition, also recognized that humans have no inherent biological or nutritional need for animals products: “It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.”

 

[Yaya_Tony]

http://freefromharm.org/health-nutr...cience-burying-the-humans-need-meat-argument/

In 2009, the American Academy of Nutrition & Dietetics, the U.S.’s oldest, largest and foremost authority on diet and nutrition, also recognized that humans have no inherent biological or nutritional need for animals products: “It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.”

You carry on believing that bullshit. I'll carry on eating steak, fish, bacon fruit, veg, whatever I fucking like no matter what some busy **** on the Internet posts about it.

 

[BlueTangerine]

You carry on believing that bullshit. I'll carry on eating steak, fish, bacon fruit, veg, whatever I fucking like no matter what some busy **** on the Internet posts about it.

Ok mate, have at it.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

Ok mate, have at it.

Not sure what you mean? Do I eat meat and fish? Yeah. And I fucking love it. Do I eat veg and fruit? Yeah. You can't tell people what to eat. Everyone will eat what they want, when they want.

 

[Sir peace frog]

Not sure what you mean? Do I eat meat and fish? Yeah. And I fucking love it. Do I eat veg and fruit? Yeah. You can't tell people what to eat. Everyone will eat what they want, when they want.

you have never watched falling down, try getting a mcbreakfast after 10.30am :)

 

[BlueTangerine]

Not sure what you mean? Do I eat meat and fish? Yeah. And I fucking love it. Do I eat veg and fruit? Yeah. You can't tell people what to eat. Everyone will eat what they want, when they want.

Of course they will, I am not disputing that. I used to eat meat, I was never blown the fuck away by it's taste though, I did it habitually. Now I am repulsed at it. I have determined that I no longer wanted to be a slave to my bullshit psychology and I no longer wanted to wander around with my eyes shut. I have offered reasons, you are unconvinced, and that's the end of it. Just as you are allowed to think i'm a handwringing basket lentil **** or whatever, I am allowed to think you are selfish twat in this aspect. It's not the end of the world.

 

[smudgedj]

There is a lot of evidence to suggest that we are at our healthiest with no meat at all

Are you making this up as you go along?

 

[Yaya_Tony]

you have never watched falling down, try getting a mcbreakfast after 10.30am :)

A hash brown and a sausage and egg mcmuffin I'll take

 

[SWP's back]

http://freefromharm.org/health-nutr...cience-burying-the-humans-need-meat-argument/

In 2009, the American Academy of Nutrition & Dietetics, the U.S.’s oldest, largest and foremost authority on diet and nutrition, also recognized that humans have no inherent biological or nutritional need for animals products: “It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.”

Doesn't say anything there about it being better for you does it.

 

[smudgedj]

Instead of bananas or carrots?

lol just ate a banana.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

Of course they will, I am not disputing that. I used to eat meat, I was never blown the fuck away by it's taste though, I did it habitually. Now I am repulsed at it. I have determined that I no longer wanted to be a slave to my bullshit psychology and I no longer wanted to wander around with my eyes shut. I have offered reasons, you are unconvinced, and that's the end of it. Just as you are allowed to think i'm a handwringing basket lentil **** or whatever, I am allowed to think you are selfish twat in this aspect. It's not the end of the world.

Why repulsed? You've given no valid reasons whatsoever to feel that way. That's why you are continually talking bullshit.

 

[SWP's back]

Of course they will, I am not disputing that. I used to eat meat, I was never blown the fuck away by it's taste though, I did it habitually. Now I am repulsed at it. I have determined that I no longer wanted to be a slave to my bullshit psychology and I no longer wanted to wander around with my eyes shut. I have offered reasons, you are unconvinced, and that's the end of it. Just as you are allowed to think i'm a handwringing basket lentil **** or whatever, I am allowed to think you are selfish twat in this aspect. It's not the end of the world.

So why do you appear one of the least happy people on here bud? If you've made all these gat decisions?