Veganism

west didsblue said:
No. It's a serious question. He said so. You must be missing the point like I was.
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Do you struggle to read, or do you just choose which bits to read and ignore others, to find something to use against someone? You have twice completely bypassed the point that I was merely making reference to another situation where people have told others how to behave. How about responding to that, rather than putting words in my mouth as your only way to 'win' an argument?
 
Stuuuuuu said:
Yay_Tony, you really are on the defensive. Calm down and stop with the abuse. Now go back and read the last few posts carefully.
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Abuse? Ain't seen nothing yet mucker. I read them all and I call bullshit on you and blue tangerine. Probably named himself that because he eats them all day.
 
Yaya_Tony said:
A vendetta against you? Do I fuck. I'm just struggling to understand your reasons for hating people that eat meat and fish and the idea you're somehow better because you don't. I'm sure you're a sound bloke.
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You keep making it personal. Fine, I hate life in and of itself, I think I am rational for thinking this way. I think you are selfish if you accept the "facts" I have spouted and carry on perpetuating needless suffering. I am not "better" as I have said a good few times now, I am part of the game, same as you not by choice. We all came in involuntarily. I am simply trying to minimize my impact of harm. I can't cure cancer, I'm too thick, I can't make a meaningful difference. I am simply acknowledging that this is the least I can do, and because it's so easy, I can call every fucker who doesn't.. selfish.

Again the world hasn't ended, someone believing you're selfish in 1 aspect shouldn't grate you so much, unless you feel there is some truth in it.
 
Stuuuuuu said:
Do you struggle to read, or do you just choose which bits to read and ignore others, to find something to use against someone? You have twice completely bypassed the point that I was merely making reference to another situation where people have told others how to behave. How about responding to that, rather than putting words in my mouth as your only way to 'win' an argument?
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Sorry. I'm not going to get into an argument comparing fanatical vegans telling over 95% of the world's population how to behave with 95% of the world population telling fanatical racists how to behave. It's too stupid.
 
Yaya_Tony said:
So who chooses to tell others? Is there a qualifying process?
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Surely I should be asking you this question. You are complaining about people telling others how to behave. So who decides when it's OK and when it isn't? When some people pushed against slavery, was that OK to tell others how to behave?
 
Stuuuuuu said:
Do you struggle to read, or do you just choose which bits to read and ignore others, to find something to use against someone? You have twice completely bypassed the point that I was merely making reference to another situation where people have told others how to behave. How about responding to that, rather than putting words in my mouth as your only way to 'win' an argument?
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such as the scientific consensus you mentioned and failed to address?

And no, you likened apartheid to eating meat though no one other than yourself know why.
 
Stuuuuuu said:
Do you struggle to read, or do you just choose which bits to read and ignore others, to find something to use against someone? You have twice completely bypassed the point that I was merely making reference to another situation where people have told others how to behave. How about responding to that, rather than putting words in my mouth as your only way to 'win' an argument?
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Racist twats deserve to be told to shape up. Meat eaters don't. How's that?
 
SWP's back said:
such as the scientific consensus you mentioned and failed to address?

And no, you likened apartheid to eating meat though no one other than yourself know why.
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Nope. Try again. I addressed the complaint against people telling others to behave by pointing out that this happens all the time without complaining. It's funny that people get all het up about it when it's on a subject that doesn't sit well with them.
 
Stuuuuuu said:
Surely I should be asking you this question. You are complaining about people telling others how to behave. So who decides when it's OK and when it isn't? When some people pushed against slavery, was that OK to tell others how to behave?
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If a guy wants to eat carrots and potatoes and bananas his entire life that's his choice. When I come on a city forum I don't expect to be berated for liking spag bol and bacon butties.
 
Yaya_Tony said:
Racist twats deserve to be told to shape up. Meat eaters don't. How's that?
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Do I really have to explain? Apparently the whole point in you getting yourself all in a lather throughout this thread is that you don't like others telling people how to behave, yet you seem to have just acknowledged that it's OK for people to tell others how to behave.
 
Stuuuuuu said:
Do I really have to explain? Apparently the whole point in you getting yourself all in a lather throughout this thread is that you don't like others telling people how to behave, yet you seem to have just acknowledged that it's OK for people to tell others how to behave.
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That's more bullshit. I don't like anyone telling others how to behave. As a race, most of us have some common fucking sense. And some of us eat meat fish chicken eggs and cheese. Deal with it instead of preaching. I fucking like steak. Why the fuck would I give that up because some self righteous dickhead on the Internet said so? It makes no sense at all.
 
Yaya_Tony said:
If a guy wants to eat carrots and potatoes and bananas his entire life that's his choice. When I come on a city forum I don't expect to be berated for liking spag bol and bacon butties.
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Think of it from the banana's point of view. One day hanging happily in a tree, the next some vicious human separating it from its family, ripping its skin off and biting into it.
 
SWP's back said:
such as the scientific consensus you mentioned and failed to address?

And no, you likened apartheid to eating meat though no one other than yourself know why.
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As an aside, I have to address the fact that I have been visiting this site (on and off) for a few years, and I've seen a lot of your posts in that time. You may be glad to hear that your posts stand out more than anyone else's. I think every single post of yours (there may be an odd exception, but I can't remember any) is you slagging people off, picking holes, making nasty comments and generally having digs. I'm reading an interesting thread, and it's no surprise when in the middle of it all, there's a little post from SWP's Back, picking up on some minor error or point you disagree with, made in a condescending way. It's like it's your raison d'etre to put people down and tell them how they are wrong about everything. Do you literally come on the internet to find people to argue with? If you've had a bad day, do you think, "Right, let's find someone who I think is wrong about something and make damn sure they know it!"? In all that time, I've never seen you post anything constructive, positive, informative, clever, nice or useful; it's always snide comments. I can only assume it's some kind of self-esteem thing. Like you'll feel a bit better about yourself if you can convince yourself that you are somehow better than some random strangers. But you really have become a parody of yourself now.

As for scientific consensus - well, you're at it again right there. It's just pedantic to ask for a scientific consensus on something on an internet forum. What do you want me to do - write an essay and provide 100 references? You asked for it because you know full well that nobody on a forum is going to have the time or inclination to demonstrate a scientific consensus for anything.

I can share some articles (for example: http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancestors-were-nearly-all-vegetarians/ ) but how many do I need to share in order to demonstrate a consensus that you will accept? It's a pointless exercise.
 
Yaya_Tony said:
That's more bullshit. I don't like anyone telling others how to behave. As a race, most of us have some common fucking sense. And some of us eat meat fish chicken eggs and cheese. Deal with it instead of preaching. I fucking like steak. Why the fuck would I give that up because some self righteous dickhead on the Internet said so? It makes no sense at all.
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Have you considered anger management?
 
west didsblue said:
Think of it from the banana's point of view. One day hanging happily in a tree, the next some vicious human separating it from its family, ripping its skin off and biting into it.
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Shit...the same could well apply to an orange, or a great many other citrus fruits come to think of it. Sod the sheep, save the fruit.
 
Yaya_Tony said:
That's more bullshit. I don't like anyone telling others how to behave. As a race, most of us have some common fucking sense. And some of us eat meat fish chicken eggs and cheese. Deal with it instead of preaching. I fucking like steak. Why the fuck would I give that up because some self righteous dickhead on the Internet said so? It makes no sense at all.
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Where have I told others how to behave? I AM MAKING AN ARGUMENT. You are unconvinced, and I am free to consider you selfish.. what is the big mystery here? Eat your meat and chill out.
 
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