Vieira could be next City boss

[Matt the Giant]

I'd say Jim Wilcox would be better equipped to manage a PL side with jhis years of experience.
Vieira is many many years away (if ever) from being handed the managerial post at us, - one of the biggest and most ambitious clubs in the world.

 

[BlueDejong]

I'd say Jim Wilcox would be better equipped to manage a PL side with jhis years of experience.
Vieira is many many years away (if ever) from being handed the managerial post at us, - one of the biggest and most ambitious clubs in the world.

Maybe Vieira will be next Assistant coach, first.

 

[Deleted member 58678]

I'd say Jim Wilcox would be better equipped to manage a PL side with jhis years of experience.
Vieira is many many years away (if ever) from being handed the managerial post at us, - one of the biggest and most ambitious clubs in the world.

Maybe Vieira will be next Assistant coach, first.

I've thought that in the past.

This is something that's inetresting; "I don't have any reason to leave this football club. If you look at the club five years ago to now, can you imagine what will happen in the next five years? I want to be part of it."

You'd think the jump from EDS to manager at a club like City - unlike Barcelona (when Guardiola did the same transition), when they had an ingrained club philosophy that the players knew before he even took the role - where we have a lot to lose if we miss out on Top 3/4, would be too much of a risk. So maybe the next step for him will be Assistant First Team Coach.

 

[sam-caddick]

I'd say Jim Wilcox would be better equipped to manage a PL side with jhis years of experience.
Vieira is many many years away (if ever) from being handed the managerial post at us, - one of the biggest and most ambitious clubs in the world.

Maybe Vieira will be next Assistant coach, first.

I think Pellegrini will be here next season and then he will go off to manage Chile, whoever is the next manager I reckon Txiki will demand Vieira being one of the first team coaches.

Also, that way the kids Vieira has worked with will have a smooth transition into first team football.

 

[Toranaga sama]

I'd say Jim Wilcox would be better equipped to manage a PL side with jhis years of experience.
Vieira is many many years away (if ever) from being handed the managerial post at us, - one of the biggest and most ambitious clubs in the world.

Maybe Vieira will be next Assistant coach, first.

I think Pellegrini will be here next season and then he will go off to manage Chile, whoever is the next manager I reckon Txiki will demand Vieira being one of the first team coaches.

Also, that way the kids Vieira has worked with will have a smooth transition into first team football.

I don't think we will renew Peller's contract. Sooner or later he will leave us. Whether Pep joins us or not, surely Vieira will be the assistant manager of the new coach. After that new coach depart, Vieira will be our Manager. Vieira's recent quotes and Soriano's 3/4 years cycle indicate the same.

 

[Goosebot]

"This is not just pitches and a gym, but also a philosophy in terms of how we run our club and our football." - Khaldoon.

I like this quote, just wanted to highlight it, think its exactly right. World class facilities with be great for the youth but needs backing up with a strong mentality/philosophy and then into experience with big games against men.

 

[supercity88]

There's no doubt in my mind that one day Vieira will be given the manager's job but what's refreshing is that he is more than happy with his job at the moment and he fully respects that Pellegrini is the manager. Mourinho worked around football for a long time before he became a manager, he's had the likes of Rodgers and Villas Boas work close to him in the past and they've gone on to do well but haven't reached the same level. Guardiola is constantly referred to as an example City might follow with Vieira, but as he says it's only 6 years since the takeover and the whole philosophy of the club has only really taken a hold in the past 12 months.

The new academy will certainly help integrate the clubs thinking on all levels and I think Vieira would benefit from staying where he is and then moving into an assistants role for the first team under the next manager for three or four years. Get used to the first team managerial environment, get to know the players and then step up to managing. He has a great mentality, was a great player and likes his team to play an attractive style of football. It's better to nurture him to the tactical side and the sheer stress and pressure of first team management before handing him the reigns.

Interesting in the Keown article about being a black manager as well - it would be fantastic for him to make a huge mark at a successful club like City - I know managers should be judged on merits not on race, but it's hard to find many black managers in football despite the number of great black players there have been. He is fully supportive of City, and recognises our great players and owner - we have a true advocate of the club despite his previous allegiances. I hope we can eventually get Lampard involved similarly because he has the same mentality, professionalism and love for football that can be the basis for a great coaching career. Chelsea have made a huge error allowing him to leave and not trying to secure him a coaching place - short term v long term thinking.

 

[Nixon_The_Bike_Thief]

Vieira is many many years away (if ever) from being handed the managerial post at us, - one of the biggest and most ambitious clubs in the world.

Guardiola at Barca, under Txiki and Ferran ?

 

[Deleted member 58678]

Vieira is many many years away (if ever) from being handed the managerial post at us, - one of the biggest and most ambitious clubs in the world.

Guardiola at Barca, under Txiki and Ferran ?

The thing is, at Barça they'd already had the philosophy of tika taka throughout the club from junior to senior level for a good while. Anyone who went there would just slot right in with the philosophy. Plus there was a situation in the first team where nine of the squad had separated from their girlfriends or divorced their wives in that previous season and I don't think Begiristain was too impressed with the attitude of the squad. A major shake up was needed.

Also Barça could take the chance because a year or two out of the Champions League to a club like them wouldn't make a huge impact on them; whereas a year or two out of the CL for City would be pretty catastrophic so taking a chance on an unproven manager is a huge risk.

Even so, as I said above, I do reckon Vieira will make a step to be a #2 to he next manager after Pellegrini leaves.

 

[LoveCity]

2013-2016: Pellegrini
2016-2019: Pep with Vieira as assistant
2019-?: Vieira

Would be perfect... on paper. :)

 

[Blue Haze]

I'm surprised we've come out and stated it so plainly.

Very reassuring we have a long-term plan. We're the only PL club thinking this far into the future.

 

[schfc6]

18 months is a long time in football.

I wouldn't be surprised if we gave Viera a chance. I'd imagine a highly experienced assistant with him.

Our approach will be so much further along in 18 months time. A top two finish this season, would all but guarantee one next year under Manual.

Leaving Paddy with a very experienced side, one that knows how to win, knows how to get the job done in the Prem.
18 months time you'd hope to see a few EDS lads looking at being squad players.

We are not like United, Liverpool we have a sustained and balanced management pyramid. Sorriano & Txiki are in charge of the squad, building and recruiting.

Viera would speak volumes for our approach, imagine the profile it would bring to the club.

Season 2016-17 Paddy V In charge with 4 or 5 home grown talents floating around the first team, young black manager promoted from within, promoting youth into his squad. The media wouldn't know what to do. I could see a few suicides..

Outside of Pep, perhaps Klopp and Simone, I can't see any great next managers out there. Why not take a chance?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I'm always a bit sceptical about this succession planning thing. I've heard it a million times before that Bryan Robson or Steve Bruce or Gary Pallister were going to be next United manager, and it's only five minutes since Uwe Rosler was going to be our next manager. Obviously Vieira might be ours one day, but I'd say the chances are very slim. It's a bit like saying that Andy Cole's son will be England's centre forward one day.

 

[schfc6]

I'm always a bit sceptical about this succession planning thing. I've heard it a million times before that Bryan Robson or Steve Bruce or Gary Pallister were going to be next United manager, and it's only five minutes since Uwe Rosler was going to be our next manager. Obviously Vieira might be ours one day, but I'd say the chances are very slim. It's a bit like saying that Andy Cole's son will be England's centre forward one day.[/quote

I disagree, I think it is our plan. United never once put in place a system. Let alone a system like ours. They were ran with an iron fist. One almighty God that you worked for or against. Hence their problems now.

While I don't think Viera will certainly be our next manager, I would have him at second favourite already. Let alone in 18 months time. Hopefully longer if Manuel carries on as he is.

I think the plan is to hire from within, providing the man in place is right for the job. No I wouldn't want Rosler, nor would I want a Ya Ya, but Viera is different. He is a born leader. You can see it in him when he's doing the EDS, his players love him, he never shuts up. He has what it takes. 2-3 years time, we'll be strong enough to cope with the odd blip. Viera looks like a cracking coach. After all, we now have a system that suits a head coach, not an autocratic leader..

 

[In the land of Barcodes]

We all pretty say it's too soon for Paddy; so how about this scenario:

Manuel for the next 2 years

Jason Kreis for 3 years with Paddy as a first team coach - he's the most highly regarded young coach in the States and has taken over New York City FC - a coach used to working with players in a certain style

Paddy after then

Just me thinking outside the box, we need to look at the whole City family now, it could happen

 

[Davs 19]

We all pretty say it's too soon for Paddy; so how about this scenario:

Manuel for the next 2 years

Jason Kreis for 3 years with Paddy as a first team coach - he's the most highly regarded young coach in the States and has taken over New York City FC - a coach used to working with players in a certain style

Paddy after then

Just me thinking outside the box, we need to look at the whole City family now, it could happen

Aliens could land on the Whitehouse lawn tomorrow.......

Guess what ?

 

[In the land of Barcodes]

We all pretty say it's too soon for Paddy; so how about this scenario:

Manuel for the next 2 years

Jason Kreis for 3 years with Paddy as a first team coach - he's the most highly regarded young coach in the States and has taken over New York City FC - a coach used to working with players in a certain style

Paddy after then

Just me thinking outside the box, we need to look at the whole City family now, it could happen

Aliens could land on the Whitehouse lawn tomorrow.......

Guess what ?

There has to be a reason they deliberately got him from Real Salt Lake, plus sending him over here for 6 months to spend time with Paddy & Manuel

 

[Ray78]

He would be on the shortlist once Pellegrini leaves whether he gets the job is down to how he can work with Txiki Begiristain imho.

 

[Davs 19]

We all pretty say it's too soon for Paddy; so how about this scenario:

Manuel for the next 2 years

Jason Kreis for 3 years with Paddy as a first team coach - he's the most highly regarded young coach in the States and has taken over New York City FC - a coach used to working with players in a certain style

Paddy after then

Just me thinking outside the box, we need to look at the whole City family now, it could happen

Aliens could land on the Whitehouse lawn tomorrow.......

Guess what ?

There has to be a reason they deliberately got him from Real Salt Lake, plus sending him over here for 6 months to spend time with Paddy & Manuel

To understand the ethos of the wider club and bring him up to speed with the playing style ideally expected ?

 

[MeatHunterrr]

Aliens could land on the Whitehouse lawn tomorrow.......

Guess what ?

There has to be a reason they deliberately got him from Real Salt Lake, plus sending him over here for 6 months to spend time with Paddy & Manuel

To understand the ethos of the wider club and bring him up to speed with the playing style ideally expected ?

Bingo. City want everyone to play the same way, whether its Man City, New York City or Melbourne City. Everyone has to play the same way (using the same principles). This includes the youth teams when the sister clubs eventually get their academies.