Villa (H) Post Match Thread

[Bodicoteblue]

Away from the ball.

It really is quite simple, you make a move towards the ball it’s interfering with play.

Not if the ball was last played deliberately by the defender.
EG if a defender deliberately plays a back pass to his keeper, failing to spot an opponent in an offside position, who then intercepts that pass, then the attacker is onside.
it doesn’t matter where the opponent is, if and when the ball is deliberately played by the defender, then intercepted.
The clue is ‘deliberate’ and Mings was deemed to have deliberately played the ball, thus rendering anyone and everyone onside.

 

[daztrueblue91]

That law has not changed for at least 60 years.

I’m sure the whole phases of play is a relatively new law. Either way I still disagree with it.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

We'd have been crying like babies had it happened to us.

I'd have been calling the sky blue who got robbed all the naughty names in the farmyard and it would have brought Joe Mercer back to mind - I thought I'd seen every way to score a fuckin' goal but you've just demonstrated another!

 

[Blue Mist]

It’s not Rodri’s fault at all.

But Mings should be fully entitled to turn towards his own goal without interference from an offside player.

The moment Rodri prevents Mings from doing so he is interfering with play.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

FFS. as soon as Mings chests the ball AND ALSO when he then kicked the ball he plays Rodri onside. It has always been like that.

 

[Gingers Dad]

We'd have been crying like babies had it happened to us.

Correct we would but it doesn't change the rules.

 

[CBD]

We'd have been crying like babies had it happened to us.

Only those of us unaware of the laws of the game

 

[khoitnm]

That law has not changed for at least 60 years.

Doesn't mean it right. But on the other hand, what's the better way? I don't know. So we should accept it until having a better way.

On another thought, actually, people only make effort to make rules better when there's a lot of complaints, so... complain or not, it's all good!

 

[iwasthere1968]

Read my previous post.

Dinho gave a penalty away in similar circumstances against a German side in the CL. I thought it was a joke then.

I haven't the time or inclination to compare the events.
But for the record when a professional takes part in a professional game it's his or her duty to learn the laws. No use bleating when it suits them.
I dont know if this law has changed recently or been in place for years there is really no excuse for the players.
For what it's worth I would prefer it if the concept of offside was applied only to receiving the ball or being involved in play.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Only those of us unaware of the laws of the game

Ooohhh,i have another stalker.

Welcome back ;-)

 

[M12Blue]

Everybody who understands football knows that he was played onside by Mings touching the ball, nobody at BT or on the Villa bench understands this, frankly, I find that baffling.

Agree, it’s bizarre. As Pep said, teams play with someone behind the line at set pieces, and have done for a few years. No difference with what happened tonight

 

[jimharri]

I’m sure the whole phases of play is a relatively new law. Either way I still disagree with it.

As you're entitled to. But; it IS the law.

 

[john blue]

Does anyone know when Kun is likely to play again, and what is the delay? I keep expecting him to be on the team sheet.

Think he is finished in a blue shirt . sad to say.

 

[sandiegoblue]

That twat hates us ! Him and snidy Tim Howard never miss an opportunity to have a dig at us.

I sent an email to NBCSN regards that twat Higginbotham. Here’s what I said....


As a viewer of your excellent soccer coverage over the past seven years or so, I feel it is appropriate that you receive feedback relating to comments made by Mr.Danny Higginbotham following the Manchester City versus Aston Villa English Premier League game.

I recognize that his views and comments are purely his opinions, but his comments relating to Manchester City’s first goal show a complete lack of understanding of the rules of the game. For an ex-professional to express such a strong opinion while clearly not knowing, or understanding the rules of the game (in this case the offside rule), I would expect NBCSN to question whether he is qualified to be on your panel and you should seriously consider an alternative to ensure your high standards are maintained.

 

[Blue Mist]

We'd have been crying like babies had it happened to us.

Even though it was a perfectly legit goal ? behave. we would be mad at the defender for fucking about but not about the goal.

 

[CBD]

Not if the ball was last played deliberately by the defender.
EG if a defender deliberately plays a back pass to his keeper, failing to spot an opponent in an offside position, who then intercepts that pass, then the attacker is onside.
it doesn’t matter where the opponent is, if and when the ball is deliberately played by the defender, then intercepted.
The clue is ‘deliberate’ and Mings was deemed to have deliberately played the ball, thus rendering anyone and everyone onside.

Yes of course he deliberately played the ball he chested it down and was being a bit cocky-other than that he had a very solid game

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Everybody who understands football knows that he was played onside by Mings touching the ball, nobody at BT or on the Villa bench understands this, frankly, I find that baffling.

It’s not even a new rule, it’s been around a few years now. These people are supposed to work in this game and don’t even know the laws. As you say, baffling!

Smith is a coach for fuck’s sake, a coach in the top league in the world of this sport and he’s getting himself sent off for overreacting on something he doesn’t understand in the sport he’s paid millions to work in!

 

[Gingers Dad]

and they pay a pundit ref, who does not no the fucking rules.

Until he actually looked up the rules. Wish the 2hat had read the rules before he reffed some of our games!

 

[daztrueblue91]

Not if the ball was last played deliberately by the defender.
EG if a defender deliberately plays a back pass to his keeper, failing to spot an opponent in an offside position, who then intercepts that pass, then the attacker is onside.
it doesn’t matter where the opponent is, if and when the ball is deliberately played by the defender, then intercepted.
The clue is ‘deliberate’ and Mings was deemed to have deliberately played the ball, thus rendering anyone and everyone onside.

There’s no need to argue the legality of the decision to me, I’ve already stated that there was nothing wrong with the refs decision.

 

[Postman Pep]

It’s not Rodri’s fault at all.

But Mings should be fully entitled to turn towards his own goal without interference from an offside player.

The moment Rodri prevents Mings from doing so he is interfering with play.

Mings was entitled to stop playing and take a free kick, he chose not to and played on it really is that simple.

 

[Fiftyyearsandcounting]

We'd have been crying like babies had it happened to us.

Remember against Liverpool, a couple of seasons ago, when Aguero's goal was ruled offside even though Milner had touched it before Kun. Claimed it wasn't a deliberate attempt to play the ball..