Villa Vs City Post Match Thread

[Prestwich_Blue]

I've watched the tape back and the linesman flagged it was a Villa throw in the 1st place before Sagna took the thrown in. The motion about feet was to advise the ref that the ball had deflected off a City player.

I was at the game and the assistant did signal a Villa throw, even though it seemed to have come off the Villa player. But the ref didn't do anything when Sagna took the throw and there were no protests from the Villa players, who just accepted it, which suggested it was our throw. The assistant must have said something to the ref as the throw was taken.

 

[Chris in London]

All the throw in stuff is irrelevant any way. We should have won, we didn't for whatever reason. It's the same old story in games like these. We just have to hope that one day the penny will drop and we don't assume we can coast through these kinds of games. Meanwhile, on to the next one.

Completely true, but one of the points to pick over in a disappointing draw was the fact that the ref had a shocker. Even if this incident had not happened, you still have the weak display that permitted so much time wasting (e.g. the multiple times Guzan took 20 seconds to release the ball), the Gestede incident, the penalty call etc etc

It isn't the ref's fault that Sterling picked out Guzan's face from 5 years, but refereeing displays do have an effect on the game and this ref's performance benefited Villa.

 

[cibaman]

We're too soft in this regard. We always put the ball out for the smallest incident. It pisses me off no end because there are far more false alarms, or as in yesterday's case blatant fucking play acting than real injuries.
Let the referee decide, that's what they're there for!

The thing that bugs me is that its nearly always the opposition team that puts the ball out when a player is injured. I'm sure that if someone carried out a statistical analysis, over 80% of the time the opposition puts the ball out. When its one of their own players who is injured, teams will carry on playing unless its obvious that the player is really badly hurt. You also find that if they carry on playing when one of their men is injured, and then lose possession, they will then start gesturing to their opponents to put the ball out.

Unless its a Buust type injury, leave it to the ref.

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

Well I didn't see that! Have to say that Sagna has a habit of throwing the ball a little late [downwards] which could be given as a foul throw. Anyway, you must be right. I was struggling to understand why officials didn't seem to know the offside law.

It was still a bit weird. Looked like the linesman was telling Sagna before he took the throw and Sagna just took it anyway.

 

[Steve68]

Completely true, but one of the points to pick over in a disappointing draw was the fact that the ref had a shocker. Even if this incident had not happened, you still have the weak display that permitted so much time wasting (e.g. the multiple times Guzan took 20 seconds to release the ball), the Gestede incident, the penalty call etc etc

It isn't the ref's fault that Sterling picked out Guzan's face from 5 years, but refereeing displays do have an effect on the game and this ref's performance benefited Villa.

Yea. Guzan should have been booked. No question.

But looking at what a fool Mourinho is making of himself and his club, which I'm certain is affecting the team, I'm even less inclined to blame referees or the media for things. In the end championships are won by teams and not lost by referees and a persecution complex can infect a whole club.

I like how dignified Pellers is and how well our players generally conduct themselves. And I'm sure that if any other team ends up ahead of us they must have put up one helluva fight. We will win and we will do it The City way. In style and despite anything else.

 

[Sir peace frog]

The thing that bugs me is that its nearly always the opposition team that puts the ball out when a player is injured. I'm sure that if someone carried out a statistical analysis, over 80% of the time the opposition puts the ball out. When its one of their own players who is injured, teams will carry on playing unless its obvious that the player is really badly hurt. You also find that if they carry on playing when one of their men is injured, and then lose possession, they will then start gesturing to their opponents to put the ball out.

Unless its a Buust type injury, leave it to the ref.

why cant the doc come on like they do in rugby

 

[sir baconface]

The game was there to be won irrespective of a poxy throw-in and a bit of time-wasting.

Dwelling on this sort of trivia is the stuff of Hughes and Mourinho.

 

[Steve68]

The game was there to be won irrespective of a poxy throw-in and a bit of time-wasting.

Dwelling on this sort of trivia is the stuff of Hughes and Mourinho.

Yea, that's what I was trying to say as well. We played well below our best, Pellers made some poor calls. These things happen to every club in every season. There are no points awarded for ifs, buts and maybe's. At the end of the season, over 38 games, we will finish where we deserve as every team will. And in our case I believe that will be as champions.

 

[es1]

The ref gave City the throw. Sagna took it, and threw to Sterling who was in what would have been an offside position in normal play. The linesman flagged for offside as soon as Sterling gathered the ball in. The ref blew for it. Then when Sterling was questioning the decision the liner seemed to motion that Sagna's feet were off the ground. Replay showed they weren't. Quite how play got to be restarted with a Villa throw I'm not sure but it's pretty clear the original 'offence' given was offside.

i would have to disagree - not that it an important issue, but as a ref I probably notice what the AR and refs do, especially when they're wrong, more than you!

Initially the AR signalled a villa throw. Quite why the ref signalled a city throw and why the AR let Sagna take the throw I dont know, clearly a breakdown in communication. The AR then motioned that the ball flicked of a city boot which is why he gave the throw to villa. Once Sagna took the throw the AR raised his flag to indicate the wrong team taking the throw, rather than an offisde (the correct signal for offside was not given - upright flag followed by an indication of where the offence took place).

 

[mad zab]

A very poor first half performance was the reason we didn't win this game IMO.

We allowed them to settle into the game, because our intensity in that first half was not good enough. Of course we had a couple of chances, but they were able to build a base to defend in the second half. If we had come out firing, I believe we would have wore them down more quickly and created more clear cut chances than we did.