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We should all be ashamed!
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bluemoon1078
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moomba said:bluemoon1078 said:i wasn't accusing you of anything, i refer you to your previous post! but if the cap fits and all that ;)
My previous post simply stated that it's better to have an opinion than not.
Nothing to do with positivity, or negativity.
fair enough moomba, i'm all for a good debate, even a heated one ;) it just isn't as much fun on here at the moment! the 10 threads a minute culture isn't helping.
I suppose at the end of the day most of us want the same thing and half of us will be proved right? i honestly believe Hughes has to stay and will get it right (i didn't look in the handbook for that either ;))
leewill31 said:99% of your post atm moomba are all negative,but thats just my opinion!
Because our performances merit it. ~I have been highly complimentary when we've been playing well.
FWIW, I posted last week that the West Brom game was a great opportunity to start a real run up the table, and I've posted all year that I think we can still make a UEFA Cup spot (don't believe that any more).
But people will read into things what they want.
Second Skin
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Ajay, agree with your comments.
I am not pro or anti Hughes at this moment in time but I am prepared to give the bloke a fare crack at the whip. Lets just remember a few things here.
Hughes has inherited a squad, that for the second half of last year was awful, (boro, fulham). HIS purchases on the whole have improved the team and I would expect more improvements in January, although I believe that these will not be the superstars some people want, but will be want we need in our current situation and move us forward.
I have taken a good long hard look at our squad and not many of them would get into the a top 4 starting eleven, Robbie (yes), Ireland (maybe), SWP (tried once, maybe), Kompany (maybe), Zab (maybe), Hart (maybe) not many others. If we want to achieve the vision set out by the new owners, then we need to be prepared to build a team and allow Hughes to do this. I am sure he has style of play he wishes to impose on the team but he currently doesn't have the squad to back it up and the currently palyers have seriosuly underperformed.
Come on we gave SGE a year, it is the least we can give Hughes.
I am not pro or anti Hughes at this moment in time but I am prepared to give the bloke a fare crack at the whip. Lets just remember a few things here.
Hughes has inherited a squad, that for the second half of last year was awful, (boro, fulham). HIS purchases on the whole have improved the team and I would expect more improvements in January, although I believe that these will not be the superstars some people want, but will be want we need in our current situation and move us forward.
I have taken a good long hard look at our squad and not many of them would get into the a top 4 starting eleven, Robbie (yes), Ireland (maybe), SWP (tried once, maybe), Kompany (maybe), Zab (maybe), Hart (maybe) not many others. If we want to achieve the vision set out by the new owners, then we need to be prepared to build a team and allow Hughes to do this. I am sure he has style of play he wishes to impose on the team but he currently doesn't have the squad to back it up and the currently palyers have seriosuly underperformed.
Come on we gave SGE a year, it is the least we can give Hughes.
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader
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mancitytmd said:He is the Anti christ isn't he
:)
Stop being negative. The M doesn't stand for Mark, that's just a pseudonym. It really stands for Messiah.
jay_mcfc
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Bunch of drama queens. When Hughes performs like a manager we'll treat him as one. He deserves all the criticism he's getting at the moment (except any chanting at games which, despite my hatred for the man, I don't think should happen)
poh
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Good post from ajay-i think it's clear now to anyone with a bit of sense that mark hughes has a team on his hands that needs a lot of changes-he does not only need the january window but the next as well (and maybe more after that ) before we can see if things are on the up. untill then it just does not make sense at all trying to second guess him or insulting him.Yes things do not look good at the moment but all blues must be patient ( and i know how hard this is,i have been a fan for 38 years) and calm the fuck down.Anyway, may i take this opportunity to wish all blues a merry christmas and a successful and table rising new year.
Not all the fans were involved in that chant, in fact many tried to stop it.Ajay said:The negativity on this forum is unbearable!
We should all sit back and read what is being posted and reflect on what other people think of us and our club when they read the crap we say about ourselves!
Talk about the squad not having a winning mentality - more so it is the supporters who do not have a winning or supportive mentality!
Negativity breeds Negativity!
We where there behind our club through some tough times, much tougher than we currently face but some posts on here sound like it is the end of the world and MH is the Anti-Christ!
Well I said it before and I will say it again - we must have faith, we must support and we must cheer our squad and our manager rather than act like a bunch of school kids, I was horrified when I heard the chants at the WB game - actually disgusted is a better description!
There are no excuses for those chants - maybe our boys didn't start it but we certainly carried it through!
Please - remember who we are, why we support our club and the fact that we are entering a new chapter in our life - a solid positive move that will take time!
Cheers
But you'll find that the majority of fans on here agree with their sentiments. I don't.
The supporters want to win at all costs. They see Hughes as a problem not the solution, but they don't know the facts.
Ducado
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Top Post Ajay!
bizzbo
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Marvin said:The supporters want to win at all costs. They see Hughes as a problem not the solution, but they don't know the facts.
then enlighten us, please
I've supported hughes for months, even supported vassell over elano etc etc. but when i went back and looked over things again, i've decided I can't do so any more. I agree there are problems at the club, but i can only conclude MH has tried to change too much too soon, and has made several glaring errors that have only made things worse. I'm not saying he has no chance of turning it around, but i think he has made more of a mess of things than ever needed to be the case.
Well done, Ajay,
Some of us have been plugging this line for some time now (check my previous posts if you can bear to ). Frequent changes of manager and the impatience of some of the fans on here and in the ground are the common factors in our lack of success during the last (almost) 40 years.
I wish that the more bilious of us would find another hobby at times; we'd be better off with smaller crowds who SUPPORT the team and the manager.
With luck, MH will at least keep us up, but personally, I would rather take the drop than accept that certain players rule the Club. That's the road to nowhere!
Some of us have been plugging this line for some time now (check my previous posts if you can bear to ). Frequent changes of manager and the impatience of some of the fans on here and in the ground are the common factors in our lack of success during the last (almost) 40 years.
I wish that the more bilious of us would find another hobby at times; we'd be better off with smaller crowds who SUPPORT the team and the manager.
With luck, MH will at least keep us up, but personally, I would rather take the drop than accept that certain players rule the Club. That's the road to nowhere!
Ducado
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It would be better if people would just find a thread and add to it, instead of the endless new threads spouting the same doom laden drivel may be the mods should do some thread merging, it's hard sorting the wheat from the chaff, good discussions are being pushed out by attention seeking posters!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...t-wear-shirt-boss-eyes-New-Year-signings.htmlbizzbo said:Marvin said:The supporters want to win at all costs. They see Hughes as a problem not the solution, but they don't know the facts.
then enlighten us, please
I've supported hughes for months, even supported vassell over elano etc etc. but when i went back and looked over things again, i've decided I can't do so any more. I agree there are problems at the club, but i can only conclude MH has tried to change too much too soon, and has made several glaring errors that have only made things worse. I'm not saying he has no chance of turning it around, but i think he has made more of a mess of things than ever needed to be the case.
There have been other stories in the press as well.
The issue pre-dates Hughes. I don't want to say too much about that, but what's in the papers pretty much matches what I was told was going on last season under SGE
Failsworth_Blue
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Why should we all be ashamed? This is a messege board where people offer their opinions, some put their points across well and others don't but thats whats going to happen when you've got a messege board as big as this. Obviously theres going to people against Hughes and thats perfectly understandable i should think considering the position were in nearly half way through the season with the amount of talent in the squad while others want stability and think he'll come good
Failsworth_Blue said:Why should we all be ashamed? This is a messege board where people offer their opinions, some put their points across well and others don't but thats whats going to happen when you've got a messege board as big as this. Obviously theres going to people against Hughes and thats perfectly understandable i should think considering the position were in nearly half way through the season with the amount of talent in the squad while others want stability and think he'll come good
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Blue Mooner
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Excellent post Ajay agree 100%.
I have no problem with people questioning Hughes and being doubtful whether he's the right man.
For me, it's the viciousness of some of the attacks against the manager that I find distasteful. Fine express your view and put forward a reasoned argument, but some of the comments are just vindictive, vicious and divisive.
At the end of the day whether you like him or not he IS our manager and having doubts about his abilities and supporting the team are not mutually exclusive.
The thing I struggle with with the HUghes out brigade is the almost desire and desperation that comes across on this board and sadly in the crowd to see him fail. There was a clear lack of support for the players on Sunday and you could almost feel some supporters waiting to jump on his back.
If you support Manchester City then in my view on a match day that is exactly what you should do, not sit there waiting for the team and manager to fail just so you have the satisfaction of saying 'I told you so'
Like I have said numerous times the most powerful driving force behind our opportunity for success is our new owners and if they back Hughes then so do I.
I have no problem with people questioning Hughes and being doubtful whether he's the right man.
For me, it's the viciousness of some of the attacks against the manager that I find distasteful. Fine express your view and put forward a reasoned argument, but some of the comments are just vindictive, vicious and divisive.
At the end of the day whether you like him or not he IS our manager and having doubts about his abilities and supporting the team are not mutually exclusive.
The thing I struggle with with the HUghes out brigade is the almost desire and desperation that comes across on this board and sadly in the crowd to see him fail. There was a clear lack of support for the players on Sunday and you could almost feel some supporters waiting to jump on his back.
If you support Manchester City then in my view on a match day that is exactly what you should do, not sit there waiting for the team and manager to fail just so you have the satisfaction of saying 'I told you so'
Like I have said numerous times the most powerful driving force behind our opportunity for success is our new owners and if they back Hughes then so do I.
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I think far too many of you are over estimating the influence an internet message board holds. If you can't vent your spleen on here then where can you?
Cheesy said:I think far too many of you are over estimating the influence an internet message board holds. If you can't vent your spleen on here then where can you?
Cheesy,
Go and kick the cat and if you haven't got one, bite the postman!
goat boy
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Top post Ajay.
Remember kids: the empty vessel makes the most noise.
That is all.
;)
Remember kids: the empty vessel makes the most noise.
That is all.
;)
Lord Blue
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quality post