We Will Be A Disgrace...

[Failsworth_Blue]

The table indicates we have played less games than most, how do you expect people to think it's a fair indication of where we stand for next season when we are down on number of games played compared to near enough everyone else?

Playing less games is not important, what important is that, getting 20 points out of possible 39 (13 games) is still a POOR RESULT.

If Man City won the next 2 games, you got 26 points, still less than the top 4 teams highlighted in the table.

If Man City won the next 3 games, you got 29 points, still less than Liverpool and Man Utd.

And Kenny Daglish's Liverpool beat Chelsea, Man Utd and Man City. They drew with Arsenal.

Mancini? Drew with Arsenal, lost to Liverpool, Chelsea and Man Utd in the league.


So, any more excuse? Mancini should be sacked be4 it is too late.

Of course playing less games is important as the table isn't a true reflection of how things are over a season. Over 38 games, everyone plays each other home and away, in the table you listed before some have played 1 game more, some 2 games more, some 3 games more and we don't know who the games have been against, whether they've played more at home than away etc so it's not fair to comment based on a table where teams haven't played the same amount of games

20 points from 13 games isn't a a great return, no one will doubt that but we aren't an established top four side at the moment, we are a new team and theres times throughout the season where we will go through bad spells.

Mancini should be sacked before it's too late? Based on a ridiculous league table you've posted? Fact of the matter if we are in an Fa Cup final after beating a team who's going to win the league and are in the Champions League final and need one win from our last 3 games to finish 4th, this is Mancini's first full season

 

[Juan King]

I don't think Mancini is good enough to take us where we want to go. I've seen enough to think he needs to be replaced if we get fourth or not. If he wins the cup he will always be remembered but we should still say thanks for what you have done & goodbye IMO.

 

[K.Reeves right foot]

Considering the players we have, mancini foir me remains utterly unconvincing. Weather it's his managment style, tactics or what, I don't know, maybe a combination of a few things. Sat at Everton summed us up under Mancini. We can look great fro 20-30 mins then totally capitulate under the slightest change in tactics from an opposition manager. Happened against west ham aswell even though we somehow scraped a win in that one.
Mancini is incapable of changing tactics in a game to wrestle back initiative and that is a big flaw which will see us embarassed in the CL next season if we are not careful.
To say we are about to finish 4th and are in an FA Cup final therefore everything is ok is deluded and myopic thinking i'm afraid.
first of all, the FA Cup is NO barrometer of progress. Anyone with a good draw and some luck can reach a final. Stoke are our opponents FFS. Ask fans of Portsmouth, Millwall, Wigan, Wimbledon, Coventry if FACup finals equate to long term growth....they don't. The CL maybe buyt not the FACup.
Secondly, we have stuttered to 4th this season. True, Spurs have been suprisingly poor recently and if they had a decent striker I elieve they would be 4th not us. Liverpool have had a wretched season apparently but are now on our tails. We'll make it, but as a byproduct of Mancini's flawed tactics, lack of team shape, poor form from the aforementioned 2 teams. Real progress would be to be nearer the scum not again, miles away from them, that's the true barrometer. Arsenal have been awful yet are still above us which is annoying.

Trotting out the argument we are 4th and in an FACup final is missing many of the problems which seem to be part of mancini's reign and I don't believe he will fix them.
I believe he will stay IF he has done his remit for the owners yet not wanting to be the merchant of doom here, I cannot see us beating Stoke by virtue of the fact we cannot defend crosses. Stoke will have a field day and will simply give everything to win their first final. Hopefully i'll be wrong. We'll get 4th but we must be the most unconvincing English CL team since this over hyped competition started [well, maybe Everton were that]
Anyway - moan over, tonight should have us seal 4th, job done, if not then......well..let's not think about that...!

 

[leonoon]

Playing less games is not important, what important is that, getting 20 points out of possible 39 (13 games) is still a POOR RESULT.

If Man City won the next 2 games, you got 26 points, still less than the top 4 teams highlighted in the table.

If Man City won the next 3 games, you got 29 points, still less than Liverpool and Man Utd.

And Kenny Daglish's Liverpool beat Chelsea, Man Utd and Man City. They drew with Arsenal.

Mancini? Drew with Arsenal, lost to Liverpool, Chelsea and Man Utd in the league.


So, any more excuse? Mancini should be sacked be4 it is too late.

Of course playing less games is important as the table isn't a true reflection of how things are over a season. Over 38 games, everyone plays each other home and away, in the table you listed before some have played 1 game more, some 2 games more, some 3 games more and we don't know who the games have been against, whether they've played more at home than away etc so it's not fair to comment based on a table where teams haven't played the same amount of games

20 points from 13 games isn't a a great return, no one will doubt that but we aren't an established top four side at the moment, we are a new team and theres times throughout the season where we will go through bad spells.

Mancini should be sacked before it's too late? Based on a ridiculous league table you've posted? Fact of the matter if we are in an Fa Cup final after beating a team who's going to win the league and are in the Champions League final and need one win from our last 3 games to finish 4th, this is Mancini's first full season

Like I already highlighted, either you are blind or just pretended you didn't see it, Mancini's record against top 4 teams is quite POOR. Let alone top 7 teams include Spurs and Everton:
Liverpool - lost 1, won 1 (be4 daglish)
Man Utd - lost 1, drew 1
Chelsea - lost 1, won 1
Arsenal - lost 1, drew 1
Everton - lost 2 games
Spurs - drew 1, next one we will find out soon.

You said: "We aren't an established top 4 side at the moment".
This is a typical excuse given by someone who has a loser mentality.

For 300m spent by Sheikh Monsour, they would expect the manager to build a strong team not only for the top 4 spot, but have a try at challenging the title.

Mancini? He didn't even try at all. He is too chicken-out to try. He wanted to play safe. Thus he kept on using negative football for the team. He played for a draw against stronger teams instead.
Result? Yeah, you may get the top 4 spot. But you lost the challenge to the title to Man Utd because of one thing - YOU DIDN'T EVEN TRY.

Looking at how strongly Liverpool were playing now compared to how lamely this Man City team were playing, likely you would lose the top 4 spot to them next season.

Poeple like you have the same loser mentality like Mancini.

Mancini should be sacked.

 

[Failsworth_Blue]

Of course playing less games is important as the table isn't a true reflection of how things are over a season. Over 38 games, everyone plays each other home and away, in the table you listed before some have played 1 game more, some 2 games more, some 3 games more and we don't know who the games have been against, whether they've played more at home than away etc so it's not fair to comment based on a table where teams haven't played the same amount of games

20 points from 13 games isn't a a great return, no one will doubt that but we aren't an established top four side at the moment, we are a new team and theres times throughout the season where we will go through bad spells.

Mancini should be sacked before it's too late? Based on a ridiculous league table you've posted? Fact of the matter if we are in an Fa Cup final after beating a team who's going to win the league and are in the Champions League final and need one win from our last 3 games to finish 4th, this is Mancini's first full season

Like I already highlighted, either you are blind or just pretended you didn't see it, Mancini's record against top 4 teams is quite POOR. Let alone top 7 teams include Spurs and Everton:
Liverpool - lost 1, won 1 (be4 daglish)
Man Utd - lost 1, drew 1
Chelsea - lost 1, won 1
Arsenal - lost 1, drew 1
Everton - lost 2 games
Spurs - drew 1, next one we will find out soon.

You said: "We aren't an established top 4 side at the moment".
This is a typical excuse given by someone who has a loser mentality.

For 300m spent by Sheikh Monsour, they would expect the manager to build a strong team not only for the top 4 spot, but have a try at challenging the title.

Mancini? He didn't even try at all. He is too chicken-out to try. He wanted to play safe. Thus he kept on using negative football for the team. He played for a draw against stronger teams instead.
Result? Yeah, you may get the top 4 spot. But you lost the challenge to the title to Man Utd because of one thing - YOU DIDN'T EVEN TRY.

Looking at how strongly Liverpool were playing now compared to how lamely this Man City team were playing, likely you would lose the top 4 spot to them next season.

Poeple like you have the same loser mentality like Mancini.

Mancini should be sacked.

Mancini has a loser mentality? What about the fact he's won trophies at each of his 3 clubs before he came to City? Also in his first full season we are in an FA Cup final. How does he have a loser mentality?

You are being ridiculous if you expect a team that finished 5th and miles behind the leaders to then go and challenge for the title straight away, of course it's possible but it's extremely difficult. I don't think i have a loser mentality as you like to call it, i like to think i'm realistic. Realistic enough to know Mancini could do better but also to think that he's done a good job so far

Theres aspects of his management he needs to improve on, no doubt about that for me but i also feel he's done enough over the season to warrant being kept on

 

[Unknown_Genius]

We will only change manager if Mancini chooses to leave, its extremely unlikely the owners will sack him.

As regards Mancini, I just can't see him turning City into a title winning team. If he doesn't change his methods, next season will be a carbon copy of this one, fighting it out for top 4 with Spurs or Liverpool, and that fight will be a lot harder.

The owners set targets. He meets them. He stays (unless he gets sick of all the moaning so called fans on here).

Can he manage a title winning side? Well the special one, like Mancini, would take a 1-nil win most games and hasn't pulled up any trees in Madrid. So who could deliver - Ancoletti - obviously not - Italian, not good enough for Chelsea, Pep? - won't leave Barca. Fergie? too late - he'd tell you it takes time to build a title winning team. So if we get rid tell me who can deliver a title even if he's given five years and unlimited money?

I wasn't calling for his head, just saying that the only way the club will depart with Mancini is if he chooses to leave. If we win the Cup, and finish 4th, I'll be more than happy for him to stay, I just have doubts whether City can challenge for the title under him, which will be a target next season.

 

[poyntonblueboy]

i see city, had a ceo at a game in italy, does anyone really think, we`ll be sacking mr mancini. with senior management, going over players with direction from mancini, i dont think so.................oh i know ! why dont we get new manager every year.

 

[bri an t]

just cant believe people talk about sacking the manger,with two big games to be played, we all should all be backing him.

 

[samharris]

I wish we could play week in week out like we played against fulham away or the first half at Everton....who knows given time Bob could well have us doing just that.

 

[Anonymous]

Just curious - going off the OP's thoughts and some of those who agree with him - would it equally be a disgrace on Mancini's part if he quit at the end of the season to go back and manage in Italy?