We will not finish top 6...

blumoon said:
moomba said:
It will be harder to get into the top 4 if we finance our rivals rebuilding by paying over the top fees.
Yup have to agree on this.......although we have destabilised some of our rivals eg Barry, it does rather annoy me to be paying over the odds for players.

It is for this exact reason why we need to start looking abroad, especially for defenders. no point paying 30 mil for lescott when he is worth 15 MAX!!! Id rather have proven chammps league defenders who fancy trying out the premiership for size, Mexes, Luisao, Maicon, lahm, metzelder
 
moomba said:
Barry wasn't too bad, I think Villa will struggle to rpelicate his influence for the £12m we gave them.

Adebayor could go either way. Tevez was fantastic, don't care how much he cost.

I suspect Chelsea missed out on an opportunity by selling Chelsea, I'm sure they could have done better in the long term with the money that we would have been prepared to give him. But he would have been such an impact signing I think it would have been worth it anyway.

Toure - suspect Wenger can't believe his luck, likewise if we get near the sums talked about for Lescott or Upson.


so its ok you calling people for us wanting toure,lescott etc etc because you dont want to help the rivals but you dont care if we pay over the odds for tevez?


pot,black,kettle...put them in the right order eh?
 
To be fair we are always going to have to pay over the odds for players as Clubs know we have an endless supply. So far however we have done resonably well though..

Tevez... The rags match the price
Barry... Liverpool bid £5m last summer
Ade-- Milan were sniffing at £5m more last summer
RSC-- No defence Blackburn did us but lets be honnest do we need to worry about Blackburn & that ilk anymore

any 4 from Zab, Richards, Ned,Bridge, Kompany, lescott, Upson, Toure should do ok for us with an experiecened keeper behind them and half decent coaching for set pieces/ positioning etc (Time for Messers Bowen et al to step up)

I have every confidence we will be top 6 next season and could make top 4 if 1 of the sky 4 has a wobble
 
moomba said:
Top 6 should be achievable with Lescott and Upson (although I'd be very underwhelmed if we bought Upson).

But we should be looking higher, and looking to build a squad that wioll take us to the next level from there. Someone like Upson will just need to be replaced in a year or so.

Yes, Upson is not a good addition to the squad, well not an improvement anyway. Perhaps we have to take a risk in this position like other top teams. They have not always gone for proven players from that league. IMO our scouts should be submitting names and data about all top players around Europe and beyond if necessary. This may be happening but I don't think so.

We can't get Terry, Vidic or other 'top' CBs in the league, so we should be looking for a foreign equivalent, not plan Bs like Upson
 
bluemooner_mcfc said:
moomba said:
Barry wasn't too bad, I think Villa will struggle to rpelicate his influence for the £12m we gave them.

Adebayor could go either way. Tevez was fantastic, don't care how much he cost.

I suspect Chelsea missed out on an opportunity by selling Chelsea, I'm sure they could have done better in the long term with the money that we would have been prepared to give him. But he would have been such an impact signing I think it would have been worth it anyway.

Toure - suspect Wenger can't believe his luck, likewise if we get near the sums talked about for Lescott or Upson.


so its ok you calling people for us wanting toure,lescott etc etc because you dont want to help the rivals but you dont care if we pay over the odds for tevez?


pot,black,kettle...put them in the right order eh?

Tevez was owned by MSI, not United.

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Yes. Let's not buy players from other PL clubs. There can be no doubt that they'll take all the money and buy players, and those players will work out for them 100%.

Life is a risk. Eliminate the risk, please.
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bluemooner_mcfc said:
so its ok you calling people for us wanting toure,lescott etc etc because you dont want to help the rivals but you dont care if we pay over the odds for tevez?

pot,black,kettle...put them in the right order eh?

What we paid for Tevez hasn't helped any of our rivals.

And I'm not "calling" anyone, just offering my opinion. Don't be so sensitive.
 
mike24 said:
blumoon said:
Yup have to agree on this.......although we have destabilised some of our rivals eg Barry, it does rather annoy me to be paying over the odds for players.

It is for this exact reason why we need to start looking abroad, especially for defenders. no point paying 30 mil for lescott when he is worth 15 MAX!!! Id rather have proven chammps league defenders who fancy trying out the premiership for size, Mexes, Luisao, Maicon, lahm, metzelder


so you would much rather gamble on a player who is proven in the champions league rather than proven premiership?

and for the record maicon is a good player but going forward and is shite at defending and i would put mexes in the same group.

i cant believe we are on the verge of something really great and yet theres still moaning twats moaning that we are going for thw wrong CLASS defenders rather than look abroad for them.
 
Brucie Bonus said:
Yes. Let's not buy players from other PL clubs. There can be no doubt that they'll take all the money and buy players, and those players will work out for them 100%.

Life is a risk. Eliminate the risk, please.
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i was all for signing Lescott until i found out it was 'wrong' to give money to other premier league clubs. Lets not forget Everton and Wolves will receive money if this goes through!!
 
Brucie Bonus said:
Yes. Let's not buy players from other PL clubs. There can be no doubt that they'll take all the money and buy players, and those players will work out for them 100%.

Life is a risk. Eliminate the risk, please.

No-one is saying that we shouldn't buy players from other premier league clubs.
 
bluemooner_mcfc said:
moomba said:
Barry wasn't too bad, I think Villa will struggle to rpelicate his influence for the £12m we gave them.

Adebayor could go either way. Tevez was fantastic, don't care how much he cost.

I suspect Chelsea missed out on an opportunity by selling Chelsea, I'm sure they could have done better in the long term with the money that we would have been prepared to give him. But he would have been such an impact signing I think it would have been worth it anyway.

Toure - suspect Wenger can't believe his luck, likewise if we get near the sums talked about for Lescott or Upson.


so its ok you calling people for us wanting toure,lescott etc etc because you dont want to help the rivals but you dont care if we pay over the odds for tevez?


pot,black,kettle...put them in the right order eh?

No club got any money for Tevez??

But giving Arsenal £15m for Toure doesnt necessarily improve their team with that, and the same with West Ham and Upson. If you think that there are better cheaper alternatives and they haven't been looked at by us then basically you are saying we are being run like a corner shop. We are looking at established prem league stars.

We might give them money to spend, but whether they strengthen is going to be down to as much luck as judgement as they won't be buying established players, or if they do they will just be as expensive.
 
im sure half of you lot on here are posting tongue in cheek because i cant for the life of me understand why its wrong to buy lescott and toure but yet most was all for buying terry and if torres was our target you would all start wanking over the thought of it.


fook in hell whats wrong with you lot eh?
 
bluemooner_mcfc said:
im sure half of you lot on here are posting tongue in cheek because i cant for the life of me understand why its wrong to buy lescott and toure but yet most was all for buying terry and if torres was our target you would all start wanking over the thought of it.


fook in hell whats wrong with you lot eh?
b-b-but then other teams would have money :( *gulp*
 
Paulmcfc2703 said:
bluemooner_mcfc said:
im sure half of you lot on here are posting tongue in cheek because i cant for the life of me understand why its wrong to buy lescott and toure but yet most was all for buying terry and if torres was our target you would all start wanking over the thought of it.


fook in hell whats wrong with you lot eh?
b-b-but then other teams would have money :( *gulp*



LMFAO

yeh they will mate and thats just not fair is it lol
 
bluemooner_mcfc said:
Paulmcfc2703 said:
b-b-but then other teams would have money :( *gulp*



LMFAO

yeh they will mate and thats just not fair is it lol
my god this is terrible.we should just buy abroad.............but what if the foreign team buys a prem player as a replacement?

Jesus there is no stopping these english teams getting money!! ;)
 
bluemooner_mcfc said:
im sure half of you lot on here are posting tongue in cheek because i cant for the life of me understand why its wrong to buy lescott and toure but yet most was all for buying terry and if torres was our target you would all start wanking over the thought of it.

Do you think maybe it's because Terry and Torres are a little bit higher quality than Lescott and Toure?

Just maybe.
 
moomba said:
bluemooner_mcfc said:
im sure half of you lot on here are posting tongue in cheek because i cant for the life of me understand why its wrong to buy lescott and toure but yet most was all for buying terry and if torres was our target you would all start wanking over the thought of it.

Do you think maybe it's because Terry and Torres are a little bit higher quality than Lescott and Toure?

Just maybe.
but we would have to pay more. Then they would buy other players to replace them (maybe from prem clubs) which would give more teams money. :(
 
I agree with Johnmc 100%. We are all on a "steep learning-curve", but the corner-shop days are over. You can't eliminate human error, all we can honestly hope for is a batting average over .350 (which would be the dogs bollocks aamof). The underlying assumption seems to me to be that only City will buy players that do not work out, and that 100% of monies paid by City will be ploughed into players by the receiving club. It's my opinion that windfalls (if that is how you'd like to characteriZe City paying a little more than what some folks think is a fair price - a fair price though, imo, is whatever the buyer is willing to pay...but call me old Mr. Libertarian) are going to be used to service debt, or invest in infrastructure, rather than blown in toto on a player.
 
moomba said:
bluemooner_mcfc said:
im sure half of you lot on here are posting tongue in cheek because i cant for the life of me understand why its wrong to buy lescott and toure but yet most was all for buying terry and if torres was our target you would all start wanking over the thought of it.

Do you think maybe it's because Terry and Torres are a little bit higher quality than Lescott and Toure?

Just maybe.

Lol yep. Say we signed Terry and Torres, we'd be the best team in the league. Sign Lescott and Toure and we're still the 5th best.

I swear some people on here think that no matter what City do it's right, and take every word a City representative says as Gospel. City do get things wrong, Hughes is not the next Mourinho, Tevez is not the next Maradona. I love the club, I'm very ambitious and very optimistic, but the one thing I don't let go of is reality. Some need to get that grip on reality back.
 

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