We Won !!! No Thanks To Hughes

[JohnMaddocksAxe]

I'd love to hear from the Hughes out brigade a compelling well thought through 'realistic' argument as to who should replace him and why the 'alternative' would be a better 'long term' solution because lets face it that would be what we are looking for.

I've seen names bandied about but no strong arguments for his replacement

Not a Sven esque replacement in the twilight of his career.

Yes, we could all say Mourinho - but if you don't no for certain he would come - how then can you say we should sack Hughes without knowing this would be the alternative ? so if not Mourinho then what ?

Frankly, I think the sack Hughes brigade are off their rocker dealing with a 'perceived' problem without having thought through the solution. His signings have been rock solid - we all thought we knew better with Bellamy, none of us had identified De Jong and he has been a revelation - as has Kompany.... and Hughes 'STILL' has not been able to put out his side consistent and on a regular basis due to suspensions and injuries.

I just wish the sack Hughes brigade would stop coming out with the same old predictable sh*t after every perceived below par performance it strikes me that you would rather we fail so you can be proved right which is even more worrying.

Not forgetting, we have just got throught to the QUARTER FINALS of the UEFA cup for the first time in 30 years ! Strewth ! And this is supposedly a strong case for sacking the manager !!!

You seem to be suggesting that Mark Hughes is the very best manager that the club could ever attract.

You must have a very low opinion of the club, certainly a lot lower than mine. And that's before we even consider that being the richest club in the world, withb all the potential for success that that has, might just , just maybe, be a bit of an attraction for managers.

 

[blue dallas]

I'd just love to hear a decent argument in favour of him that doesn't just rely on the 'give him time' line.

That should be good enough & it's the only way we will get anywhere.

Our idiots even have a banner aswell.

We Won !!! No Thanks To Hughes

What sort of a fuckin idiot would post that after we'd won,says it all really.

and through to our 1st quarter final in europe in years.

unreal !

 

[Blue Mooner]

He's matched the cup record of every manager since John Bond already. And beats them all if we beat Hamburg.

Crap though obviously.

Well, out of these results, given the quality of opposition, which do you think is something a top class manager would point to and say "I'm really proud of that result."

And which do you think a top class manager would say "I under performed there".

You know, as you seem so impressed with his cup record. (I won't list the league results as we all know the story there).

I make the Schalke result a result to be proud of and better than could have reasonably expected with the talent we have. Whilst there are a number of shockers in there. You obviously see it very differently and it would be interesting to hear why?


EB/Streymur N 2 : 0
EB/Streymur N 2 : 0
FC Midtjylland H 0 : 1
FC Midtjylland A 1 : 0
AC Omonia A 2 : 1
Brighton and Hove Albion A 2 : 2
AC Omonia H 2 : 1
FC Twente H 3 : 2
Schalke A 2 : 0
Paris Saint Germain H 0 : 0
Real Racing Club A 1 : 3
Nottingham Forest H 0 : 3
FC Copenhagen A 2 : 2
FC Copenhagen H 2 : 1
AaB H 2 : 0
AaB A 0 : 2


You know, since his cup record is something that is so good.

Do the games Groclin Dyskobolia or Lokeren mean anything to you ?

So If United win the European Cup this season do you think they're going to worry about drawing with Aalborg at Old Trafford ?

You can keep dragging up the FA Cup at Forest and Carling Cup at Brighton but one was early in the season and we were a minute from going through and lost with a slightly weakened side (something that a lot of managers do in the Carling Cup) and at Forest we all know it was a poor performance but it was a severely weakened team (Pearce esque) - that one result certainly doesn't mean that Hughes isn't the right man for the job - it was ONE game FFS.

 

[JohnMaddocksAxe]

I'd just love to hear a decent argument in favour of him that doesn't just rely on the 'give him time' line.

That should be good enough & it's the only way we will get anywhere.

Our idiots even have a banner aswell.

We Won !!! No Thanks To Hughes

What sort of a fuckin idiot would post that after we'd won,says it all really.

He asked for an argument that relies on something other than the old "give him time, look at what Fergie did" cliche. Not for someone to repeat it.

Maybe something detailing the solid progression that he has made with the team and performances. or maybe something that shows how having some very talented players in the squad has produced results that are equal to or slightly better than could be expected with those resources. Or maybe something showing how results in the second half of the season confirm that he is taking us places.

I'd love to see any of those detailed in a tangible way that relies on facts rather than cliches.

 

[Corky]

With all the other englsih teams going out in last 32, group and round one, you can't sniff at going through v a Champs League side.

 

[Balti]

He's matched the cup record of every manager since John Bond already. And beats them all if we beat Hamburg.

Crap though obviously.

Well, out of these results, given the quality of opposition, which do you think is something a top class manager would point to and say "I'm really proud of that result."

And which do you think a top class manager would say "I under performed there".

You know, as you seem so impressed with his cup record. (I won't list the league results as we all know the story there).

I make the Schalke result a result to be proud of and better than could have reasonably expected with the talent we have. Whilst there are a number of shockers in there. You obviously see it very differently and it would be interesting to hear why?


EB/Streymur N 2 : 0
EB/Streymur N 2 : 0
FC Midtjylland H 0 : 1
FC Midtjylland A 1 : 0
AC Omonia A 2 : 1
Brighton and Hove Albion A 2 : 2
AC Omonia H 2 : 1
FC Twente H 3 : 2
Schalke A 2 : 0
Paris Saint Germain H 0 : 0
Real Racing Club A 1 : 3
Nottingham Forest H 0 : 3
FC Copenhagen A 2 : 2
FC Copenhagen H 2 : 1
AaB H 2 : 0
AaB A 0 : 2


You know, since his cup record is something that is so good.

On that basis if we qualify for our first SF in 28 years or won our first trophy in 33 years then you'd use the same argument!!

 

[JohnMaddocksAxe]

He's matched the cup record of every manager since John Bond already. And beats them all if we beat Hamburg.

Crap though obviously.

Well, out of these results, given the quality of opposition, which do you think is something a top class manager would point to and say "I'm really proud of that result."

And which do you think a top class manager would say "I under performed there".

You know, as you seem so impressed with his cup record. (I won't list the league results as we all know the story there).

I make the Schalke result a result to be proud of and better than could have reasonably expected with the talent we have. Whilst there are a number of shockers in there. You obviously see it very differently and it would be interesting to hear why?


EB/Streymur N 2 : 0
EB/Streymur N 2 : 0
FC Midtjylland H 0 : 1
FC Midtjylland A 1 : 0
AC Omonia A 2 : 1
Brighton and Hove Albion A 2 : 2
AC Omonia H 2 : 1
FC Twente H 3 : 2
Schalke A 2 : 0
Paris Saint Germain H 0 : 0
Real Racing Club A 1 : 3
Nottingham Forest H 0 : 3
FC Copenhagen A 2 : 2
FC Copenhagen H 2 : 1
AaB H 2 : 0
AaB A 0 : 2


You know, since his cup record is something that is so good.

Do the games Groclin Dyskobolia or Lokeren mean anything to you ?

So If United win the European Cup this season do you think they're going to worry about drawing with Aalborg at Old Trafford ?

You can keep dragging up the FA Cup at Forest and Carling Cup at Brighton but one was early in the season and we were a minute from going through and lost with a slightly weakened side (something that a lot of managers do in the Carling Cup) and at Forest we all know it was a poor performance but it was a severely weakened team (Pearce esque) - that one result certainly doesn't mean that Hughes isn't the right man for the job - it was ONE game FFS.

He talked about the cup results and how they were impressive. Do you want me to invent games so that we can show some good results against decent teams.

No?

Yet you want me to remove shocking results against Forest and Brighton. That's quite a selection process you have there. Mind you, you also seem to be suggesting that the Brighton and Forest results were freak occurances that don't at all reflect other results this season, so I don't really know what to say.

As for United, the difference is, and this might be a difficult concept to understand, they also happen to get decent results against tough teams regularly. They don't point to results against the likes of Alborg as the pinacle of their season, which is what the above poster was doing.

 

[JohnMaddocksAxe]

He's matched the cup record of every manager since John Bond already. And beats them all if we beat Hamburg.

Crap though obviously.

Well, out of these results, given the quality of opposition, which do you think is something a top class manager would point to and say "I'm really proud of that result."

And which do you think a top class manager would say "I under performed there".

You know, as you seem so impressed with his cup record. (I won't list the league results as we all know the story there).

I make the Schalke result a result to be proud of and better than could have reasonably expected with the talent we have. Whilst there are a number of shockers in there. You obviously see it very differently and it would be interesting to hear why?


EB/Streymur N 2 : 0
EB/Streymur N 2 : 0
FC Midtjylland H 0 : 1
FC Midtjylland A 1 : 0
AC Omonia A 2 : 1
Brighton and Hove Albion A 2 : 2
AC Omonia H 2 : 1
FC Twente H 3 : 2
Schalke A 2 : 0
Paris Saint Germain H 0 : 0
Real Racing Club A 1 : 3
Nottingham Forest H 0 : 3
FC Copenhagen A 2 : 2
FC Copenhagen H 2 : 1
AaB H 2 : 0
AaB A 0 : 2


You know, since his cup record is something that is so good.

On that basis if we qualify for our first SF in 28 years or won our first trophy in 33 years then you'd use the same argument!!

I was merely addressing the point that you made.

I had hoped you would have addressed my counter point but it seems that you'd rather make a baseless assumption about how I would judge getting a result against Hamburg.

Anyway, I must go.

 

[Blue Mooner]

I'd just love to hear a decent argument in favour of him that doesn't just rely on the 'give him time' line.

That should be good enough & it's the only way we will get anywhere.

Our idiots even have a banner aswell.

We Won !!! No Thanks To Hughes

What sort of a fuckin idiot would post that after we'd won,says it all really.

He asked for an argument that relies on something other than the old "give him time, look at what Fergie did" cliche. Not for someone to repeat it.

Maybe something detailing the solid progression that he has made with the team and performances. or maybe something that shows how having some very talented players in the squad has produced results that are equal to or slightly better than could be expected with those resources. Or maybe something showing how results in the second half of the season confirm that he is taking us places.

I'd love to see any of those detailed in a tangible way that relies on facts rather than cliches.

I think it's very clear we have made progression, the fact that some on here see fit to moan after a narrow defeat to Chelsea's strongest side and us without our strongest team tells me how far we have come.

If you can't see that the quality of home performances are infinitely better then last season then really I can only think you are seeing what you want to see based on an inbuilt hatred of Hughes and in order to back up a rather tired argument which proposes no realistic alternatives.

We have progressed - although you could debate how far we 'should' have progressed with the money spent but there is no doubt the football I have watched this season is far and away better than last season.

 

[Anonymous]

Ha Ha!! The Hughes haters are out on force and I just love to hear them cry. Well Hughes is going to be here for next season and I believe for quite a few after that. So keep your bullshit up has I just love to hear you whine!!

I'd just love to hear a decent argument in favour of him that doesn't just rely on the 'give him time' line.

There is no point arguing with the likes of you who just want him out because he used to play for the rags. Oh and please don't tell me that has nothing to do with it, because that has everything to do with it. So I will just laugh at you all and smile when he is still here next season and the one after that.

Maybe you all can start a renegade City team like those rag muppets did when the yanks bought the rags.

Oh dear God, I give up I really do. For the umpteenth time... I couldn't give a toss about the past connections of anyone at the club as long as they are the right person for the job. I happen to think that MH is not the right man.

Now, any chance of answering the question?