Welbeck vs Balotelli

nashark said:
The debate's over and always was. Me and Jose are right: Balotelli is a fucking idiot. To those who still can't see it after today, and tried to put across abusive and dishonest arguments, it's time for you cats to take up rugby or hockey because you do not have a fucking clue. Football is beyond you and always will be. Cheers.
I have been, on and off, an observer of a number of forums - football mostly., but not exclusively.

I am agnostic about Balotelli. One thing I am sure about is that you are one of the most arrogant, opinionated, and plain nasty, posters I have come across on any forum - after excluding the obvious loonies, juveniles, xenophobes, and various others pests, which infest all internet forums.

And your low opinion of the intelligence of both Welbeck and Balotelli makes me wonder if there isn't some other agenda playing in your psyche.

Please forgive me if I've misread you, and that you are actually the most intelligent, educated, and football knowledgeable person on this forum/any forum/the world/the universe etc.
 
Frank H said:
nashark said:
The debate's over and always was. Me and Jose are right: Balotelli is a fucking idiot. To those who still can't see it after today, and tried to put across abusive and dishonest arguments, it's time for you cats to take up rugby or hockey because you do not have a fucking clue. Football is beyond you and always will be. Cheers.
I have been, on and off, an observer of a number of forums - football mostly., but not exclusively.

I am agnostic about Balotelli. One thing I am sure about is that you are one of the most arrogant, opinionated, and plain nasty, posters I have come across on any forum - after excluding the obvious loonies, juveniles, xenophobes, and various others pests, which infest all internet forums.

And your low opinion of the intelligence of both Welbeck and Balotelli makes me wonder if there isn't some other agenda playing in your psyche.

Please forgive me if I've misread you, and that you are actually the most intelligent, educated, and football knowledgeable person on this forum/any forum/the world/the universe etc.




frank by name and frank by nature, frank = honest, open.
 
nashark said:
The debate's over and always was. Me and Jose are right: Balotelli is a fucking idiot. To those who still can't see it after today, and tried to put across abusive and dishonest arguments, it's time for you cats to take up rugby or hockey because you do not have a fucking clue. Football is beyond you and always will be. Cheers.

You're a idiot!!

Do you think before you post? Actually don't answer that I already know....

Now and again I use to see some of your posts and think you spoke sense but lately you've been acting a right knob ead whether or not you're trying to account some fame like bb2.0 by acting like a full on whopper I don't know... but you've got to be a right sad twat to be attempting to do that...

Please past go please don't collect £200 and please do fuck off!!
 
Frank H said:
nashark said:
The debate's over and always was. Me and Jose are right: Balotelli is a fucking idiot. To those who still can't see it after today, and tried to put across abusive and dishonest arguments, it's time for you cats to take up rugby or hockey because you do not have a fucking clue. Football is beyond you and always will be. Cheers.
I have been, on and off, an observer of a number of forums - football mostly., but not exclusively.

I am agnostic about Balotelli. One thing I am sure about is that you are one of the most arrogant, opinionated, and plain nasty, posters I have come across on any forum - after excluding the obvious loonies, juveniles, xenophobes, and various others pests, which infest all internet forums.

And your low opinion of the intelligence of both Welbeck and Balotelli makes me wonder if there isn't some other agenda playing in your psyche.

Please forgive me if I've misread you, and that you are actually the most intelligent, educated, and football knowledgeable person on this forum/any forum/the world/the universe etc.

I've followed this thread for a while now and I'm pretty sure Nashark is on the wind up. Nobody is that dense.....
 
Frank H said:
nashark said:
The debate's over and always was. Me and Jose are right: Balotelli is a fucking idiot. To those who still can't see it after today, and tried to put across abusive and dishonest arguments, it's time for you cats to take up rugby or hockey because you do not have a fucking clue. Football is beyond you and always will be. Cheers.
I have been, on and off, an observer of a number of forums - football mostly., but not exclusively.

I am agnostic about Balotelli. One thing I am sure about is that you are one of the most arrogant, opinionated, and plain nasty, posters I have come across on any forum - after excluding the obvious loonies, juveniles, xenophobes, and various others pests, which infest all internet forums.

And your low opinion of the intelligence of both Welbeck and Balotelli makes me wonder if there isn't some other agenda playing in your psyche.

Please forgive me if I've misread you, and that you are actually the most intelligent, educated, and football knowledgeable person on this forum/any forum/the world/the universe etc.

Nashark, like Balotelli- somewhat ironically, is an acquired taste. Perception is reality and from my point of view you could substitute arrogant and opinionated for self-confident in his beliefs and cutting.

I suspect your thinly veiled reference to his 'agenda' is well wide of the mark.

The fact is that he is passionate about Manchester City Football Club and believes that Balotelli is not the sort of person he wants playing for this club and I suspect nothing will deviate him from that view. I happen to think he is profoundly wrong in this regard especially as I think Mario's personality fits my idea of what a City are -eccentric, frustrating, occasionally lets you down but sometimes brilliant.

As for playing with Welbeck I played five a side against Des Walker a few years ago and I've been dining out on it ever since, so who can blame him for slipping it into the thread ;-)
 
Again with this nashark? Really?
You keep ignoring posts that give you examples of Mario's talent, ability and intelligence. His first goal at Old Trafford sums up his abilities better than any words can. I assure you Welbeck would not have scored that goal. That one goal, that one piece of action would indicate Balotelli's talent and intelligence. His movement for Evan's red card, would also indicate great football intelligence.
Yes he was stupid yesterday, he was also quite unlucky and yes he is also still young. Keane, Viera, Cantona, Rooney, Beckham, Vidic the list is endless, players all who have made unintelligent decisions on a football pitch, yet have achieved great things. Balotelli is 21, has won the Champions League, the World Young Player of the year, has an F.A. Cup medal and has domestic titles under his belt, and is on what a goal a game this season? For what it's worth, I have played with Crouch, played against Owen and Wes Brown does that validate my opinion any? NO. Ben Thornley also played with David Beckham, he's now playing in the East Cheshire Sunday I think, Mark Lynch has played with Becks, Giggs et al too, and he sells Utilities for Utilities warehouse, however I fail to see the relevance in any of that. If you think Balotelli's unintelligent, and won't have a better career than Welbeck then you are welcome to that opinion, if playing with Welbeck validates it more then great, but you are going to look very silly one day...
 
nashark said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
nashark said:
The debate's over and always was. Me and Jose are right: Balotelli is a fucking idiot. To those who still can't see it after today, and tried to put across abusive and dishonest arguments, it's time for you cats to take up rugby or hockey because you do not have a fucking clue. Football is beyond you and always will be. Cheers.

Ah the old 'go and watch rugby' mantra. Classic nashark.

Also, how can a debate even exist if it was always over? A rare slip there from you, Mr Shark ;-)

Mario was unlucky today. The second yellow was not a booking. To mirror your predilection for using other sports for illustrative purposes, this isn't fucking netball and the contact was a borderline foul at most. On that basis I fail to see how the debate is over.

It is never going to be plain sailing with Balotelli. It will always be two steps forward and one step back. That is the nature of the beast. Although I do not share your antipathy towards him, I do understand it, for what it's worth. He is never going to be everyone's cup of tea. A bit like a certain poster ;-)

It appears to me that he has been making progress on the pitch in the last couple of months, and no refereeing error, notwithstanding the stupidity of the first booking, should significantly detract from that, imo.

The second booking was harsh but it was a stupid thing to do. He needlessly put his forearm into the area where the guy was stood. It wasn't to help him jump: it was utterly needless and we don't know if, were he to have remained on the pitch, he would have got the winner. So he might have just cost us two points. We shouldn't have to put up with that.

I'd rather debate with you about his talent than these silly little things which cost us. We don't exist as a club to help Balotelli mature and reach his potential: we're here to win the league. If he can't act professionally and understand what a situation requires of him then he's got to go.

I like Mancini a lot. I think he's been magnificent in organising the defence, but I cannot see why he risks his job on someone so unreliable (and he is unreliable).

He and we put up with Mario's behaviour/mishaps/mistakes etc... because he is already five times the player Welbeck is and has yet to reach half his potential. The guy is class and can be one of the best in the world in the future, there's not many of them in the world so yes teams do put up with an awful lot sometimes. And this has been his first unreliable moment this season - see Everton/utd games as prime examples.......wondering if your for real or a troll lol
 

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