Well done Hughes

[sniff]

Weel said, we contained the all through the first half . and for most if the second half we bossed liverpool, and played them off the park. And im gonna make a valid point here we DID IT AT ANfIELD. Its not a computer game of a caroon, we dont go from poor to world beaters in one year, but we have doen somthing i dont remeber us doing ever.

People are capable of forming an opinion on football thats different from yours without being influenced by computer games or cartoons. And I don't expect that anyone here who is critical of the performance expects us to be world beaters, let alone in the year that we are 18 months into.

I wish people would stick to issues, not try and prove a point by slinging as much mud as possible and making up stories about the motives of anyone who thinks differently to themselve.

Step up salford blue and mooba who has read one of my comments and yet feels the need to say im mud slinging. If you read the thread instead of the last post, you would see the point your making is the saem one i have just made to Salfordblue

 

[bizzbo]

the 0.01% argument is absolutely ridiculous and I suggest you withdraw it. it's supremely arrogant to suppose that you are more informed than everyone else in such matters, and supremely arrogant to suggest that no-one else has any understanding of the 'learning curve'.

hughes did ok today, but he won't win anyone over until we start winning games again. as it stands, we are in a reasonable position in the league, after a run of poor results and frustrating performances. it's all about what happens between now and march/april. no amount of rhetoric, name calling, squabbling or bitching will make a blind bit of difference.

No, i wont withdraw it, as you've clearly not read what i've posted.

...I started to explain what i had said but if you read it again you'll see i didnt actually say anything you've just accused me of.

hmm, funny, could have sworn you said:

99.9% of people on here haven't got a clue what he's done for this club since he arrived, but those that do say he's doing a good job in what were difficult conditions.

But thats not surprising, 'most' who want Hughes out, have never heard of progression, learning curves and evolution.

 

[blueinsa]

Comparing Hughes to Wenger is just fecking ridiculous!

By all means defend Hughes i have no prblem with that but dont get fecking giddy!

i'd take hughes over wenger any day, he has won fuck all for 4 years, we wont go that long till we win something.

Sorry but the defense of Hughes is now getting silly when stuff like this is said imo.

I will say it again, the assumption is that Hughes does have the skills to make it and that given time he will win us silverware?

We have nothing to prove or even suggest that. Only time will tell and are we in a position to give him the time? Only our owners have the answer.

Wenger>Hughes all day long and his record proves it.

 

[BobKowalski]

How convenient. For reasons nobody knows (and therefore cannot dispute) we should be feeling sorry for poor old hard done to Hughesy?

Well, in that case, I'm now fully convinced he's brilliant and not in fact, shit.

0.1% is obviously not nobody. I never said he was brilliant. Nor did i say we should feel sorry for him... Christ your jumping to a lot of conclusions.

But thats not surprising, 'most' who want Hughes out, have never heard of progression, learning curves and evolution. Every great achiever started as a complete novice at some point. What i'm saying is, just because a manager hasn't won 20 league titles doesn't mean he never will.

Oh I think most of us have. Take two contemporary managers. One started managing in 1999 the other in 2000. Both started as managerial novices albeit one started in the higher profile international arena and the other at an unfashionable domestic club in one of the lesser European leagues. Now one of these managers has evolved and progressed to win 14 trophies and the other has won nothing. Zero. Zip. De nada. One of these managers is highly sought after in the European game and the other well just isn't.

Now on your scale of progression, learning curves and evolution which manager out of these two do you think City should hire?

 

[BobKowalski]

i'd take hughes over wenger any day, he has won fuck all for 4 years, we wont go that long till we win something.

Oh you are such a leg puller

 

[Banned Tosspot]

0.1% is obviously not nobody. I never said he was brilliant. Nor did i say we should feel sorry for him... Christ your jumping to a lot of conclusions.

But thats not surprising, 'most' who want Hughes out, have never heard of progression, learning curves and evolution. Every great achiever started as a complete novice at some point. What i'm saying is, just because a manager hasn't won 20 league titles doesn't mean he never will.

Oh I think most of us have. Take two contemporary managers. One started managing in 1999 the other in 2000. Both started as managerial novices albeit one started in the higher profile international arena and the other at an unfashionable domestic club in one of the lesser European leagues. Now one of these managers has evolved and progressed to win 14 trophies and the other has won nothing. Zero. Zip. De nada. One of these managers is highly sought after in the European game and the other well just isn't.

Now on your scale of progression, learning curves and evolution which manager out of these two do you think City should hire?

Marvellous post.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

A manager in his second season has lost 1 game in 16 and we should get rid of him.

Yes he's spent a lot of money but so did Newcastle and Leeds and look at them now. Changing managers all the time really helped them.

If at the end of the season City have won nothing and nowhere near the top 4 then get rid but not now.

i dont know how you can compare what newcastle and leeds spent on trying to build a team, to the amounts our glorious leader has had to spend. it is strill relatively a new team and yes it takes time to gel, but if there is any sign that this gelling will happen i havent seen it.

we have only lost 1 in 16, but we`ve only won 1 in 8 . those games were against the mighty of birmingham, fulham, the weakest liverpool side i`ve ever seen, that on the day were cut down even further by more injury`s. wigan and aston villa whu, and the rags. oh and not forgetting the power of a burnley side on there travels.

i would love to turn round in 12 months and admit i was wrong but i cant see it our, performances against the opposition we`ve played on the whole has be piss poor to average.

my fear is we are missing our chance in the hope we have the right man for the job.

if he is the right man its about time he started proving it or get his team to do it for him.

 

[GStar]

No, i wont withdraw it, as you've clearly not read what i've posted.

...I started to explain what i had said but if you read it again you'll see i didnt actually say anything you've just accused me of.

hmm, funny, could have sworn you said:

99.9% of people on here haven't got a clue what he's done for this club since he arrived, but those that do say he's doing a good job in what were difficult conditions.

But thats not surprising, 'most' who want Hughes out, have never heard of progression, learning curves and evolution.

Thanks for proving my point.

Since when has 99.9% been everyone and 'most' been 'all'?

 

[GStar]

Oh I think most of us have. Take two contemporary managers. One started managing in 1999 the other in 2000. Both started as managerial novices albeit one started in the higher profile international arena and the other at an unfashionable domestic club in one of the lesser European leagues. Now one of these managers has evolved and progressed to win 14 trophies and the other has won nothing. Zero. Zip. De nada. One of these managers is highly sought after in the European game and the other well just isn't.

Now on your scale of progression, learning curves and evolution which manager out of these two do you think City should hire?

Hardly a relevent question, since we already have hired one of them.

What exactly are you saying, that everyone progresses at the same rate? That anyone who progresses slower should be tossed aside? That we should put all our eggs into one basket, what happens if we hijacked our current managers plans, brought in your hero and he also "failed"... then what?

 

[onceabluealways]

Hughes probably started with the same team a lot of us would have picked. What I found dissapointing is we were playing so poor in the first half and i didn't see him off his seat trying to urge them on, it was only Liverpool scoring that changed the attitude of the players.

Once we started to play we looked like the team we should be.

thought Tevez for Barry was an inspired sub until I realised he did it because Barry was injured.

I'm not dissapointed with a draw as its a good result away at Anfield no matter what team they put out. But why is it a goal that makes us play, same against Burnle. Surely its the managers job to get them ready to play well from the off. Some funny results i can deal wit but to be hones we probably only play well for about 45 minutes in every game, WHY?