West Ham (A) - EFL Cup R4 - Post-Match Thread

[paulsimpson]

Can have zero excuses there. Out with a whimper. Piss poor showing, no desire in that game at all. To throw away a 5 year reign like that is infuriating. Every single one of our forward players were total dogshit all night, kdb, gundogan, sterling mahrez and Palmer were all as bad as each other, casually jogging around waiting for somebody else to do something, never bothering to show for a forward pass and instead just looking to pick up the ball in the same areas as one another and have nothing infront of them each time they pick up the ball, it was easy for a second string west ham.

Its not the lack of a striker that's cost us because not once did we get the ball into a position where you could say a Kane or whoever scores there, its everybody on the pitch wanting to do the same thing coming towards the ball with no willingness to run off it

Don't know why anybody is focusing on the penalties, that's not knocked us out, it should never get to that stage. That's a lottery, it was in our hands to win it before it gets to that.

I'm not for one second having this bigger fish to fry and less games bollocks after the last 4 years of winning it. It's 4 more games for another trophy, 4 games that players who are complaining about not playing would get more game time had they not been shit tonight.

 

[paulsimpson]

That was our 2nd string out there. It nearly came off . Win the penalty shoot out and everyone doesn't care how we played. Although 15 shots and 7 on target should win the game in normal time. If he plays the first team we win that.

 

[Father Paul]

I want to see more from him as he’s capable of scoring a lot more than he already has. He’s scored plenty of goals for us this calendar yet but he can improve on that.

Missing a lot of one on ones these days maybe that is sapping a bit of confidence but overall contribution is vast in most games so you can't really complain.

 

[Father Paul]

could be a blessing in disguise, furher into the season. Pep's "we go for the lot" has too high a price, in terms of fatigue, form and motivation/hunger....for my money, and one less distraction. When every game is a "must win" for nine months, when rivals play less games due to targetting 1 or 2 comps, and are less dependent on rotation, burn-out is a real possibility. Wonder if the team felt a bit meh ( as seems a lot of posters do), i wouldn't blame them if so, they aren't machines.

I think there is something in that or at least I hope so and it is not a sign that we are in decline. Win the next three games and this will be a minor footnote in history come the international break.

 

[blueabdi]

Thanks god, iam extremely happy we lost carabao cup after 5 years, now is the time to focus UCL. Well done all the players including stefen, we lose as a team we win as a team.

 

[Toulousain85]

Can have zero excuses there. Out with a whimper. Piss poor showing, no desire in that game at all. To throw away a 5 year reign like that is infuriating. Every single one of our forward players were total dogshit all night, kdb, gundogan, sterling mahrez and Palmer were all as bad as each other, casually jogging around waiting for somebody else to do something, never bothering to show for a forward pass and instead just looking to pick up the ball in the same areas as one another and have nothing infront of them each time they pick up the ball, it was easy for a second string west ham.

Its not the lack of a striker that's cost us because not once did we get the ball into a position where you could say a Kane or whoever scores there, its everybody on the pitch wanting to do the same thing coming towards the ball with no willingness to run off it

Don't know why anybody is focusing on the penalties, that's not knocked us out, it should never get to that stage. That's a lottery, it was in our hands to win it before it gets to that.

I'm not for one second having this bigger fish to fry and less games bollocks after the last 4 years of winning it. It's 4 more games for another trophy, 4 games that players who are complaining about not playing would get more game time had they not been shit tonight.

More simple reason is WH are not Bruges, nor Brighton. They are on good form for a reason. We changed 9 players, we still played well, had very good chances near the 5m50 (Palmer, Stones, Sterling), even right at the end. If you cannot put away chances like that you'll pay, and we did. They had some half chances but none as good as ours.
What I agree with is that we needed this cup, Palmer is not going to play in other competitions I fear (maybe 1 or 2 fac matches max), unless he somehow mature early and become as good as senior players in the next 3 months.

 

[waspish]

No complaints had chances missed then West Ham got lucky but defended well. It will return to not being a Micky mouse cup now.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

could be a blessing in disguise, furher into the season. Pep's "we go for the lot" has too high a price, in terms of fatigue, form and motivation/hunger....for my money, and one less distraction. When every game is a "must win" for nine months, when rivals play less games due to targetting 1 or 2 comps, and are less dependent on rotation, burn-out is a real possibility. Wonder if the team felt a bit meh ( as seems a lot of posters do), i wouldn't blame them if so, they aren't machines.

You should never turn down the chance of winning a trophy but this could be a blessing going forward. The next round of the league cup is just before the Christmas schedule and then you have to play 2 legs after that in early January. Not to mention the final that falls in around the time the champions league gets up and running again.

Need to keep in touch at the top of the league and press on in the new year.

 

[Half time draw tickets]

Had to end sometime.
Their keeper was brilliant in the second half.
Too many of ours not on their game.
Gundogan,KDB,Mahrez and Raz.
Sorry but that's me with that ground.
Queued an hour in total to get in and get my match ticket printed.
Scanning done before you get near your turnstile.Madness.
Walk to and from the park to underground horrendous.
Then a view inside which is poor.

That’s before you queue 15 minutes for the bogs to realise for some strange reason the entire block you are waiting for is cubicles, in which the toilets have overflowed and there’s three inches of piss to wade through on the floor

 

[ws01]

That was our 2nd string out there. It nearly came off . Win the penalty shoot out and everyone doesn't care how we played. Although 15 shots and 7 on target should win the game in normal time. If he plays the first team we win that.

Ahh, it was their second string too though