West ham Vs City Post Match Thread

[crmcfc]

So last season double didn't convince you then? ok..

Not in the slightest.

We underperformed and got ourselves in to the shit but finished like a train to pull it out of the fire. Our FA Cup defeat to Wigan and champions league exit were awful.

We're no better now than when he took over. What is his stamp? What has he done to put his personal influence on this team? Fuck all. We're the same as we were under Bobby, if teams stop us down the inside and outside right channel and clog up the middle of the final third we struggle. Exactly the same as under Mancini.

He's not bought well, certainly he hasn't got value for money in the market. Navas, Negredo, Jovetic, Fernandinho, Fernando, Mangala, Caballero... nearly £140 Mil and are we better now than when he took over? I don't think so. Demi the exception, he was a great acquisition.

I never wanted him and unlike many his 'charms' do fuck all for me. I'd rather have an absolute c**t who's good at his job. Pellegrini isn't and we're already out of both the competitions we had designs on before November.

1) Navas - bargain @ 15 million for a squad player. He was never a starter and was there only to provide impact
£15 million that's not a bargain, rarely makes an impact and does not chip in with enough goals. A trier but not good enough.

2) Negredo - what a start he had. And we've since sold him at profit. And he was alternate to Cavani - see how that 53 million pound signing is doing!
He does not play for us anymore

3) Jovetic -second choice to Isco. Relatively expensive at 22 million but didnt get a chance last season. jury is still out but I wouldnt immediately call him not value for money.
Are you serious. Injury prone and very wasteful.

4) Fernandinho - arguably a vital cog in the team that won us the title last year. Provided much needed energy in midfield that we lack. Expensive at 30 million and 28 age, but needed. Alternate was Vidal but I dont think he was ever on our radar and would have cost twice that
Very arguably a vital cog can only remember 5 or 6 good game for him and as you say £30 million, again gives his all just not good enough over a full season. Mentally gone now since world cup.


5) Upgrade on Garcia for a net of 2.2 million. More mobile and better tackler, though not as good in the air or as good a passer. For me he is value.
I assume you mean Fernanado would rather have an actual octopus play, PL passes him by

6) Who do you suggest we got? Benatia - he isnt lighting the world at Munich? Rojo? Manolos?
Mangala? - jury out give the lad a chance.

7) yeah, somehow at 3 odd million isnt a value as second keeper.
Agree

you seriously are on a WuM. Or a rag

 

[Bluemanc100]

Our good friend in the Middle East, Richard Keys, has been banging his jungle drums for quite a while now that things are not good behind the scenes with the players. He wont give details but he started this stance after he had Yaya in the studios couple of months ago when he gave him a birthday cake. He did suggest there was a bit of papering over the cracks going on.
Reality though is that expectations and standards are high at City, you'd expect nothing else with the money invested in the club both in players and facilities. Quite rightly fans expectations have risen, we are not the City of 10 or 20 years ago when we could just shrug our shoulders.
On a very short term basis, 5 of our next 6 games are at home and we need to win them all, then perhaps we can move on

He is annoyingly smug but, in fairness, he seems to be well-informed on such issues. Gray has mellowed a bit as well.

If there is something wrong, then it's a matter for Pellers to sort out. Mancini got slammed for this apparent dressing room strife and MP is not immune.

There is no room for second chances now. Anymore below par results [forget performances for now] and the season will be no more than a recovery operation, i.e., aim to finish second. Any more cock ups and Pellers will be on that special plane to Abu Dhabi come the international break.

I think if there is dressing room unrest it can only be about certain players attitudes to games.

We have become flat track bullies under pellegrini, I think this is as much to do with senior management UNABLE to buy the right calibre of talent as it does MP putting out the same team and set up and expecting a different result...didn't someone say that was the definition of insanity...

edited for accuracy

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Rag!

Wanker, sounds more appropriate.

Well, let's dissect what's been said here.
'Done nothing to convince that he's cut out for management at this level.'
This, about a manager who won the hardest league in the world at his first attempt, plus another major domestic trophy, lists of similar achievers on a postage stamp please.
'It was handed to us.' Only the most rabid of the red dippers come out with this shite, not realising that City had to win all their remaining 6 matches, a formidable task for any team.
'Champions league laughable.' We have been shafted on each occassion with ties against the best teams on the planet, if we had the Gunners group, would this be the case? Anyway, we're not out of it yet.
'They will walk the league.' Chelsea didn't fucking walk it last year, they didn't even come second, this, with 'The special one,' or whatever the fuck he calls himself; compare the fixtures they have had to ours so far. Plus it's not even the end of October.
Games like yesterday happen. The stats show a City dominance, unfortunately stats don't always equate to results, but there's no need to replace the manager yet.

 

[IcriedwhenTueartleft]

Just looking at the marks out of 10 in one paper.

All our players were 6 or above except

Zabaleta 5 Mangala 4 Fernando 4 and Dzeko 5.

I personally think clichy should have been in there too but can't argue with any of them.

Interestingly and it won't go do down well with a lot on here, Telegraph gave Kompany 4 and I'm inclined to agree

 

[Bluemanc100]

Wanker, sounds more appropriate.

Well, let's dissect what's been said here.
'Done nothing to convince that he's cut out for management at this level.'
This, about a manager who won the hardest league in the world at his first attempt, plus another major domestic trophy, lists of similar achievers on a postage stamp please.
'It was handed to us.' Only the most rabid of the red dippers come out with this shite, not realising that City had to win all their remaining 6 matches, a formidable task for any team.
'Champions league laughable.' We have been shafted on each occassion with ties against the best teams on the planet, if we had the Gunners group, would this be the case? Anyway, we're not out of it yet.
'They will walk the league.' Chelsea didn't fucking walk it last year, they didn't even come second, this, with 'The special one,' or whatever the fuck he calls himself; compare the fixtures they have had to ours so far. Plus it's not even the end of October.
Games like yesterday happen. The stats show a City dominance, unfortunately stats don't always equate to results, but there's no need to replace the manager yet.

To be fair they have just been waxing lyrical about our second half performance on Goals on Sunday..

After sleeping on it maybe it's too early to press the panic button

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Wanker, sounds more appropriate.

Well, let's dissect what's been said here.
'Done nothing to convince that he's cut out for management at this level.'
This, about a manager who won the hardest league in the world at his first attempt, plus another major domestic trophy, lists of similar achievers on a postage stamp please.
'It was handed to us.' Only the most rabid of the red dippers come out with this shite, not realising that City had to win all their remaining 6 matches, a formidable task for any team.
'Champions league laughable.' We have been shafted on each occassion with ties against the best teams on the planet, if we had the Gunners group, would this be the case? Anyway, we're not out of it yet.
'They will walk the league.' Chelsea didn't fucking walk it last year, they didn't even come second, this, with 'The special one,' or whatever the fuck he calls himself; compare the fixtures they have had to ours so far. Plus it's not even the end of October.
Games like yesterday happen. The stats show a City dominance, unfortunately stats don't always equate to results, but there's no need to replace the manager yet.

Great post, you old cûnt.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Well, let's dissect what's been said here.
'Done nothing to convince that he's cut out for management at this level.'
This, about a manager who won the hardest league in the world at his first attempt, plus another major domestic trophy, lists of similar achievers on a postage stamp please.
'It was handed to us.' Only the most rabid of the red dippers come out with this shite, not realising that City had to win all their remaining 6 matches, a formidable task for any team.
'Champions league laughable.' We have been shafted on each occassion with ties against the best teams on the planet, if we had the Gunners group, would this be the case? Anyway, we're not out of it yet.
'They will walk the league.' Chelsea didn't fucking walk it last year, they didn't even come second, this, with 'The special one,' or whatever the fuck he calls himself; compare the fixtures they have had to ours so far. Plus it's not even the end of October.
Games like yesterday happen. The stats show a City dominance, unfortunately stats don't always equate to results, but there's no need to replace the manager yet.

Great post, you old cûnt.

My grandad egged me on.

 

[blueincy]

Great atmosphere at West ham when they got excited - I'll miss that when they go to the olympic stadium as then they'll have a library like us, arsenal and the scum.
I enjoyed the match, but not the result. Worth the trip just to witness Silva's goal. As bad as some of our performance was, we still had the chances to win, and we gifted so much to west ham, it seemed unreal at times.
Moans - why drop Milner? Player of the season so far.
Dzeko had his leaden boots on - woeful while he was on
Mangala - looks as bad as MDM was at the start of last season. Very shaky.
Gave a way an absolutely comic first goal, and finished up with Clichy isolated by Sacko for the winning goal.
I also thought Joe should have saved it, but he had a good match, that apart.
Clichy was very disappointing, and Song 'owned' Fernando, who hasn't looked the same player since he came back from his injury.
Navas looks half the player he was a year ago. Cuts inside too much.
Big pluses - Silva's 2nd half, and that fantastic goal; Yaya trying; great effort to try to turn it round in the 2nd half; good subs, but, a bit late; Kompany got lucky and wasn't sent off!
Not much luck going our way at the moment, but, early days still. Maybe the reds will do us a favour today.
Let's hope the hammers can put similar effort in when Chelsea come to town - no love lost between them so, keep the faith brothers.

I also thought this and looking back again at the lofted cross 06:56 in the link it had Keepers ball wrote all over it IMHO, it's not like there were 3 or 4 West Ham players in the box. When he should come out and gather he stays on his line, when he should stay on his line he comes out like against Chelsea in the Nasty mix up.
Anyway on to the next game, just hope he takes a good luck at that situation and thinks what he should of done better, don't rely on clichy, he was Zombified yesterday.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2...ll-highlights-25-10-2014-premier-league_sport

 

[bornblueegg]

Well, let's dissect what's been said here.
'Done nothing to convince that he's cut out for management at this level.'
This, about a manager who won the hardest league in the world at his first attempt, plus another major domestic trophy, lists of similar achievers on a postage stamp please.
'It was handed to us.' Only the most rabid of the red dippers come out with this shite, not realising that City had to win all their remaining 6 matches, a formidable task for any team.
'Champions league laughable.' We have been shafted on each occassion with ties against the best teams on the planet, if we had the Gunners group, would this be the case? Anyway, we're not out of it yet.
'They will walk the league.' Chelsea didn't fucking walk it last year, they didn't even come second, this, with 'The special one,' or whatever the fuck he calls himself; compare the fixtures they have had to ours so far. Plus it's not even the end of October.
Games like yesterday happen. The stats show a City dominance, unfortunately stats don't always equate to results, but there's no need to replace the manager yet.

Great post, you old cûnt.

Agreed

 

[citytill1die84]

It was always gunna be hard to stay close to a Chelsea team that have only dropped 2 points (to us) other than that they've been perfect. Season is far from over and a couple of injuries to that Chelsea defence or attack and they'll start to drop points. The only thing is so will we. 2nd place and an FA Cup i would take now but i feel for some reason that we'll give (if we get in it) the Europa league a good shot and i can see us winning it.

Yesterday just wasn't our day we had the chances didn't take them. Just hope the players can pick themselves up and beat the rags next week i really couldn't put up with losing to them :(