What UEFA Coach attack Investigation?

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FootballSense said:
"This behaviour by a number of people who threw bottles, cans and pyrotechnics towards the bus is completely unacceptable and we will conduct enquiries to identify who was responsible and bring them to justice." said the Merseyside Police Match Commander Superintendent referring to the attack on the Manchester City coach the day after the match. Video evidence was then requested which was readily obtainable through the BBC, major newspapers and social media soon after the occurrence.

Since then no one has been brought to justice. The general responses have been that "investigations are ongoing" and "we are not able to comment further". Freedom of Information enquiries have, to all intents and purposes, been bureaucratically and technically dismissed with bland, meaningless replies. Requests for information to various parties were initially ignored and then met with equally dismissive standard responses. And, what is the Mayor for Greater Manchester, who also has responsibility for Police and Crime, doing about this pre-meditated, planned, publicised, publicly executed and recorded attack on Manchester citizens, in collaboration with his counterpart in Merseyside?

It is an absolute disgrace.
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The main issue is the fact the scummy twats can repeat the coach attack in October knowing there will be little or no consequence for their actions , its a recipe for disaster and the Merseyside Police will be complicit if anything serious does happen.
 
FootballSense said:
"This behaviour by a number of people who threw bottles, cans and pyrotechnics towards the bus is completely unacceptable and we will conduct enquiries to identify who was responsible and bring them to justice." said the Merseyside Police Match Commander Superintendent referring to the attack on the Manchester City coach the day after the match. Video evidence was then requested which was readily obtainable through the BBC, major newspapers and social media soon after the occurrence.

Since then no one has been brought to justice. The general responses have been that "investigations are ongoing" and "we are not able to comment further". Freedom of Information enquiries have, to all intents and purposes, been bureaucratically and technically dismissed with bland, meaningless replies. Requests for information to various parties were initially ignored and then met with equally dismissive standard responses. And, what is the Mayor for Greater Manchester, who also has responsibility for Police and Crime, doing about this pre-meditated, planned, publicised, publicly executed and recorded attack on Manchester citizens, in collaboration with his counterpart in Merseyside?

It is an absolute disgrace.
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But the spokesperson for Merseyside Police has said ...................." it wasn't their fault " .
 
Jazzman said:
You are right they would probably have thrown us out of the CL for that. Not a great idea then. Wonder what they would do if we mounted water guns and tear gas launchers on our bus and shot back at the fuckers. Should be perfectly allright by UEFA's logic.
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Haha. Nearly lost some of my beer through my nose when I read this just now. Very good.

If the City bus had so much as put the rear screen defroster on, UEFA would have fined us, Liverpool on the other hand...well, we'll be seeing more of this from their fans again this season, doubtless. If violence goes unpunished, it's as good as encouraging more of the same. Derisory fine for the club, no accountability from the police.
 
After all is said and done

WTF has our club done about all this debacle ?

nowt i guess behind closed doors,rolled over and took the "pinch " as per usual
 
I can appreciate the club's stance of wanting to deal with this quietly and behind the scenes, not let it take away from a very successfuly season for us or appear to be small minded. But there has to be a way to get some level of fairness without stoopping to their level. The fine was bollocks, likley less than the cost of repairs to the coach but little we can do with UEFA being a law unto themselves, and this investigation reeks of a police force desperatly trying to bury its head in the sand. That at least should be answerable for.

But I think also our club needs to seek publicy assurances by Merseyside Police that this isn't going to happen again, that steps have been taken and our players (and fans) will be afforded reasonable protection against damages and violence on our next visit to Anfield and we should have been included in any disucssions on plans to prevent such actions happening again. Key amongst which would asking how things are progressing in be identifying some of the idiots and making examples of them.

Maybe the supporters clubs lean on certain officials at the club to pursue these reassurances? Maybe we are hoping that if we keep it quiet it will notrepeact, but if half a city can hold a grudge against us bulding the ship canal for two centuries then I don't expect they'll have grown up by October.
 
Who give a fuck now?

A window got cracked, that’s all.

A bit soft this thread.
 
I wonder what it’ll look like on the Amazon documentary? I hope the scuminess of it all is shown and that some comments are made towards the lack of repercussions.

From a journalist’s perspective it could be gold if anything did repeat and they can claim an “I told you so” exclusive.
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
But the spokesperson for Merseyside Police has said ...................." it wasn't their fault " .
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Head of Merseyside Police sticking his nose into anti-semitism row in the Labour Party this morning. Sounds like he has no tact, diplomacy or common sense.
 
nmc said:
Head of Merseyside Police sticking his nose into anti-semitism row in the Labour Party this morning. Sounds like he has no tact, diplomacy or common sense.
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or policing background and law enforcement ability
 
and here's me being asked to attend GMP Headquarters this afternoon to "discuss" my involvement in an altercation during the home leg. You couldn't make it up.
 
So their fans spent years outing a corrupt Police Force. And they've got one of their own.
 
jrb said:
So their fans spent years outing a corrupt Police Force. And they've got one of their own.
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Ironically one of the wankers (Bettison) at the centre of the Hillsborough debacle went on to run Merseyside police for 6 or7 years !
 
nmc said:
Ironically one of the wankers (Bettison) at the centre of the Hillsborough debacle went on to run Merseyside police for 6 or7 years !
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And there you have it, there has to be something in it for someone to do anything.

Why would the club or the force do anything?

It needs to be a Manchester Politician or Copper.

The politicians are easier to control by votes & the Scousers know this.

We know Burnham won’t act so he needs to go & be replaced by someone who will if only we could bully & intimidate like those vile cxnts.
 
Andy Burnham, Mayor Of Greater Manchester on BBC Radio Manchester Wednesday morning 9am I believe. Inundate him for answer!
 
Contrast and compare.

The more the fines for other clubs play out, the more obvious how much Liverpool got away with, and how little they were fined by UEFA for the coach attack, etc.

BBC Football.

Hibernian must pay 8,000 euros (£7,235) following three charges from the away leg of their Europa League qualifier against Asteras Tripolis.

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Uefa imposed the fine for "setting of fireworks", "throwing of objects" and "insufficient organisation (no stewards with away supporters)".

The Greeks must pay 5,000 euros (£4,520) for picking up more than five bookings and a "field invasion".
 
jrb said:
Contrast and compare.

The more the fines for other clubs play out, the more obvious how much Liverpool got away with, and how little they were fined by UEFA for the coach attack, etc.

BBC Football.

Hibernian must pay 8,000 euros (£7,235) following three charges from the away leg of their Europa League qualifier against Asteras Tripolis.

B89177_B2-5_FA3-4_CE8-8706-9_BA998_FFC631.jpg


Uefa imposed the fine for "setting of fireworks", "throwing of objects" and "insufficient organisation (no stewards with away supporters)".

The Greeks must pay 5,000 euros (£4,520) for picking up more than five bookings and a "field invasion".
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Think it’s to do with it being outside the ground Uefa seem to leave that to local authorities.
 
waspish said:
Think it’s to do with it being outside the ground Uefa seem to leave that to local authorities.
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No, it doesn’t matter if it’s inside or outside the ground. Every club playing in the CL has to adhere to UEFA’s rules. Some clubs more than others.
 
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