Which Bands Got Worse After Replacing An Original Member

[Kippax77]

I wouldn't know where to start with Rainbow!

Hated zippy but Geoffrey was much stranger

 

[City Hobgoblin]

Fleetwood Mac after Peter Green left

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

New order. Once hook had left that was it. As much as he is coming across as a bit of pineapple these days the bloke was a great bass guitarist and had that stage presence.

I am one of those oddballs who love them so much I actually think WFTSC and MC are very good records. But there’s no getting around that Hooky’s bass was a huge differentiator in their sound and a major part of my attraction to their music.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Fleetwood Mac after Peter Green left

Really? Their best tunes emerged after he left.

 

[staffsblue]

I am one of those oddballs who love them so much I actually think WFTSC and MC are very good records. But there’s no getting around that Hooky’s bass was a huge differentiator in their sound and a major part of my attraction to their music.

The other weird thing about New Order is that Phil Cunningham has now been a band member longer than Hooky was, and most people are still unaware who he is!

 

[Pancake Arse]

However, can't take to Trujillo. It's like he's always trying too hard.

I agree 100%.

 

[Protein Junkie]

Yes without Anderson. Impossible to reconcile.

Absolutely @Two Gun Bob.
I was still onside with the band when they recruited Benoit David and Oliver Wakeman but what they did to the latter was just about the last straw.
The last three albums have been woeful and one day I might buy “Mirror to the Sky” if it’s a quid somewhere.
In contrast, Jon’s album with the Band Geeks is better on so many levels and includes the epic “Counties and Countries”.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

S Club 6

 

[southamptonblue]

All of them are wrong. Anyone who wants that was never a fan, never saw them live in a stadium or early on in a club, doesn't appreciate Dave's sense of humo(u)r, doesn't understand what a tool Eddie could be, or knew much about what a schlub Sammy was, whether in Montrose or solo. Don't get me wrong -- his steakhouse was pretty good.

"Right Now" was pretty alright, TBF.

Van Halen are arguably my favourite band, Van Hagar wouldn't make my top 10. I think the problem was Hagar made them a band that their fans dads would like (polished, no edge, grit or rawness) ....whilst rock music was moving the other way ie Guns n Roses, Metallica, Thrash, and grunge. Def Leppard went the same way after Hysteria (although imo, Hgh & Dry was their peak).

 

[southamptonblue]

I thought Genesis was better without Gabriel save for Lamb, and I really liked PG’s first four solo records and even So. That said, Genesis became a pop band vs a “prog” band and I prefer pop to prog, but always thought they were hit or miss on both accounts. Brits often wildly overrate them IMO.

Never even thought of PF as a band without Waters.

I much prefer Gabriel Genesis, and solo......however my fav album of theirs is 'A Trick of The Tail' ?? ....nosedived after that for me.

 

[Lavinda Past]

Really? Their best tunes emerged after he left.

Two completely different bands from different eras really.

One great blues rock band, one great pop rock band.

FM 1 was all about Peter Green

FM 2 was Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks

Chalk and cheese imo

 

[southamptonblue]

I think you’re missing my point. Fish himself replaced the original singer, and co-founder, of the band so he can’t be an original member.

Then you could discount lots of 'original members' from bands, who were replaced before releasing anything.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Ultravox after John Foxx left.

 

[Lavinda Past]

Ultravox after John Foxx left.

Very true.

 

[bluetonium]

Big shoes to fill after the sad loss of Cliff Burton, and Newsted did it very well.

However, can't take to Trujillo. It's like he's always trying too hard.

I'd agree with that, although it's hard to separate the influence of a new band member coming in, with the evolution (?) of Metallica's writing. Certainly to me nothing matches up to any of the first five albums.

Although I did quite enjoy garage inc and the s&m sessions, the studio efforts haven't been anywhere near, even the sound quality seems to have regressed since probably load and reload.

But there again, those songs and albums were really from my era, when I first discovered music in depth, so maybe we just never have music imprint on us again like it does at that time in our development.

Would you say the same for Megadeth? I've really grown to appreciate the early stuff with Chris Pollard and Gar Samuelson, given the unique background they had in jazz and moving into speed metal, and Marty Friedman brought something new to the sound, but I can't say I rate much of their newer stuff on the same level despite acknowledging the newer guitarists are technically excellent. But again, peace sell, countdown to extinction, peace sells, those were the albums I listened to as I discovered my own tastes and personality.

I think that counts for something in each of us and probably influences us greatly, but there again I don't think there's been anything like another One, Orion, Symphony of Destruction or Holy Wars from either band. Lots of younger, newer fans seem to gravitate to the 'classics' too, so maybe those times just always were better.

 

[blueish swede]

Brian and Michael

 

[bennyboy]

Rolling Stones.
Mick Taylor was a top class guitarist but they lost a load of creativity when Brian left/was fired/was murdered.

I thought they got better when Mick Joined.
The Clash when cut the crap was released.

 

[PinkFinal]

Ramones did their best work before Tommy left (first three albums)

 

[Tuearts right boot]

S Club 6

Very good.....

 

[levets]

I thought Genesis was better without Gabriel save for Lamb, and I really liked PG’s first four solo records and even So. That said, Genesis became a pop band vs a “prog” band and I prefer pop to prog, but always thought they were hit or miss on both accounts. Brits often wildly overrate them IMO.

Never even thought of PF as a band without Waters.

I totally agree with you, I much preferred Collins fronting them.