Which players are no longer good enough?

[malg]

Kolarov and Zabaletta should go.
Silva and Yaya should go.

Apart from them we're fine, obviously with a few additions.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

Hart is a top shot stopper but he hasn't got the distribution to be a top top keeper I feel. Mangala still passes the ball away under no pressure at all, don't see how pep would like that but I'd probably keep him for another season see how he goes. Sterling "might" come good is what we all hope, I doubt he has the technical ability to play the PlayStation football pep likes to play though.

Joe is a top keeper, just because he's not neur on the ball doesn't mean he's not good enough. The last few games I've seen neur play, he's been far from perfect on the ball. We should be more worried about our current out field players passing a ball than our keeper. Really don't think we should be fucking about with keepers when we've already got a keeper who's been outstanding every season since he came back from Birmingham.

 

[Armaan]

Hart would do. He is world class, am basing that on feedback, performances, international status. Why are you saying he isn't? I mean what reason?

The rest.... Not sure tbh. but I think there is more to it than being the ' best '. Look at Leicester, great team spirit etc.. If we got that right then I do think we would be one of the best in Europe.... even with our team. Also, we are in the cl semi, you don't achieve that without world class players..

But why not Hart, my god I think if it wasn't for him we would have lost some important games

I know, I like Hart he's one of my favourites I'm just trying to see things with Peps style of play in mind.

 

[almir]

Bingo, you hit the nail on the head just right there.
We are looking at replacing almost half of our entire squad.
He spend serious money over time on dross signing such as Sinclair, Rodwell, Bony, Garcia, Savic, Fernando, Jovetic, etc... and kept going on.
While we should have promoted youngsters from the EDS and made one or two big key signing per year.

Txiki and Savic? Come on, you should know Txiki wasn't around when Savic was bought. And even his replacement Nastasic was Mancini's wish.

Some of those players were sold for not big loss and some were pretty logical buys at the moment - specially the English ones. We needed homegrown players and they were talented and not expensive. It didn't work but at the moment they were bought and for money we did it, it was not some WTF moment for sure. Rodwell was a big talent in his time, not as big when we bought him as 2-3 years earlier but there was hope for him at that time and it wasn't some huge money for young English player. He was sold for surprisnigly good amount of money. Sinclair was very good at Swansea and it was reasonable buy for 7-8 millions.

Everyone was screaming about Jovetic when we bought him(plus our interest in him was earlier than Txiki, it was Mancini's wish), Txiki or anyone else wouldn't know he will spend most of his time with doctors rather than on the pitch. Fernando was also pretty rated and is not that bad buy for money we spent on him, the issue is that we should get him for free and should have told him - you either run your contract down or you're not coming here. For free he would be good buy and we couldn't afford to buy some top players at his position as we were kicked in the balls by UEFA.

Bony was absolutely the worst buy in Txiki's reign, even if it would be Pellegrini's wish, that was so awful buy it's not fair. He should probably get rid of Yaya earlier and we overpaid for Mangala though he still might come to be worth of that money in some longer run.

Txiki wasn't brilliant so far but he is not as bad as some people are trying to make him. For bad look at twats from Swamp. He came here in tricky times when we were under FFP threat and we couldn't throw money on players like we did before him. He was mainly buying squad players and English players. squad players are that - squad players, you can't expect world class for 10-20 million and English players are overrated and expensive. He overpaid for some players but that's how life looks when you're City's DoF, everyone wants top money from you. But he also sold some players for nice amounts, something we couldn't do before him. He sold some high profile players who were on the big wages too and that was also important. FFS, he even sold Balotelli for 20 odd million.

 

[Blue Whale]

Mangala
Fernando
Clichy
Demi
Bony

 

[NanaToure42]

Yaya, Bony, and possibly even....dare I say it....Zab.

Possibly Kolarov. I personally think he can add a different dimension to our game (similar to Navas) and sometimes is our most important player. But i think his defensive liabilities and style of play won't make a good fit with Peppy's system.

 

[bluemonkey71]

Yaya
Bony
Zaba
Kompany
Kolarov
Fernando
Demi

1 more year:

Clichy/Sagna while we bed in new full backs
Fernandinho
Silva
Navas



Shape up or shift out:

Mangala
Ottamendi
Sterling


Unsellable:

Sergio
Kevin

 

[BlueDeadHead]

The scary thing is that you're looking at the majortiy of the squad with that question. Just another reminder of how shit Txiki has been at his job.

He gave us Pep and you say he is shit at his job?

 

[BlueDeadHead]

Bingo, you hit the nail on the head just right there.
We are looking at replacing almost half of our entire squad.
He spend serious money over time on dross signing such as Sinclair, Rodwell, Bony, Garcia, Savic, Fernando, Jovetic, etc... and kept going on.
While we should have promoted youngsters from the EDS and made one or two big key signing per year.

He didn't buy Sinclair, Rodwell, Garcia,or Savic. He did Sell Rodwell and Garcia for way over their value.

 

[Dax777]

I think continued speculation and uncertainty regarding player's future have played an important role in our failure to challenge for the PL this season.

I disagree. But your position is valid.

 

[Dax777]

Kolarov and Zabaletta should go.
Silva and Yaya should go.

Apart from them we're fine, obviously with a few additions.

Silva, I'll keep. I sadly will not keep the other 3.

 

[Armaan]

He gave us Pep and you say he is shit at his job?

How is getting pep proving that he's good at his job? It's his best friend ffs! Look at the players he's bought, the rest should be obvious.

 

[BenjaniMwaruwari]

Yaya, Silva, Zaba and Demichelis.

I would add Bony and Kolarov, but the wording of the question suggests that the player was good enough in the first place.

 

[stan bowles]

Clichy, Zabaleta, Kolarov, Fernando, Dimichelis, Yaya, Navas, Bony, Delph are all not good enough. All these need replacing in truth although maybe Navas and Delph (injury prone as he is) could be retained as their legs are still strong. The others need putting out to pasture. Actually if Roberts was available next season I'd sell off Navas too but his loan to Celtic is another year.

 

[Mr Ed (The Stables)]

A lot of you are going to be mightily dissapointed when we don't scrap the majority of the team,cloud cuckoo land

I think over the next 6 transfer windows not many out of the current squad will still be here.

However I agree in Peps first transfer window I feel there will probably be 4 or 5 out and 4 or 5 in.

Anymore than that would be difficult to intigrate them into the squad.

Also Pep I'm sure will promote some of the youth into the first team squad, and then the "Pep factor" will improve the entire squad beyond all doubt.

I just can't wait for him to be appointed, and irrespective of what happens this season these are exciting times to be a City fan!!

 

[BillyShears]

Back to front. Willy, Zaba, Kolarov, Demichelis, Fernando, Toure, Bony, Delph, and one of Nasri or Silva should all go this summer.

 

[richards30]

no way pep is coming here without getting who and what he wants first season in and txiki will know that!

 

[Lomas has a lob on]

No longer good enough...........

Zabaleta
Kolarov
Demichelis
Fernando
Delph
Bony

Players who's will need to adjust, or be prepared to play a different role which could mean far less game time............

Toure
Silva
Navas

 

[Steve68]

Silva, I'll keep. I sadly will not keep the other 3.

Now is maybe the time to cash in on Silva and maybe a couple of others. Neither versions of FFP are dead and both raising extra transfer funds and clearing the wages by moving older players on while they still have value might not be a bad idea in the medium term.

I would not be totally surprised to see Silva, Nasri, Zabs, Yaya or Kompany (although no doubt he will get crocked with Belgium) moving on in the next two windows, as well as the more obvious players like Navas, Sagna, Willy, Fernando, Bony and Kolorov. If with promotions and signings we can comfortably meet the various HG requirements then Clichy and Delph can also go.

One of Otty or Mangala seem certain to go if only to make room for a new signing and Denny.

I suspect the turnover this summer is going to be a lot more than we might expect.

 

[trevorriley]

fewer players will go than we expect, some will stubbornly stay for the money, some must very obviously go like Bony..

cant believe the comments on silva, top half of player performers this season, then again if you are world class then have an average season fans with short memories have a go..