Which repeated lies get on your wick/t**s the most

Most annoying lies repeated ad nauseum

  • FFP cheats

    Votes: 179 40.6%
  • Unlimited spending

    Votes: 126 28.6%
  • No history

    Votes: 213 48.3%
  • No fans/empty seats

    Votes: 150 34.0%
  • Sportswashing

    Votes: 83 18.8%
  • Biggest squad

    Votes: 115 26.1%
  • Boring City winning

    Votes: 42 9.5%
  • Paying off match and regulation officials

    Votes: 33 7.5%
  • PEDs

    Votes: 14 3.2%
  • Plastic fans/wwywyws

    Votes: 84 19.0%
  • Manchester is the sunniest place in the UK

    Votes: 6 1.4%
  • Related sponsorships

    Votes: 28 6.3%
  • Nothing bothers me

    Votes: 72 16.3%
  • Nation state club

    Votes: 75 17.0%
  • Forgot - Oil club!

    Votes: 38 8.6%

  • Total voters
    441
"No history" for me.

Arsenal fans were singing that after the game, which is ludicrous as we won our first trophy, the FA Cup in 1904, while they were still an amateur team playing in Plumstead. They weren't elected to the Football League until 1913. They won their first league title a few years before us but we won every other trophy well before they won the same one.
Football fans in the moment don’t think though, they just speak. To them we are still little City. Logic rarely comes into it where chanting and slagging off is concerned.

100% of it is just pure jealousy. And it is absolutely delicious. They all want what we have.
 
In general none of it really bothers me - never really has.

The media stuff is just born out of jealousy, laziness and a lack of intelligence, with a bit of racism thrown in for good measure. They’re all dancing to our tune now, whether they realise it or not. When people have a go about us in person, I actually quite enjoy it as I’ve always been argumentative and pretty good at taking the piss.

Bottom line is I’ll take the bitterness and jealousy which follows our success over being patronised when we were shit any day of the week.

The one thing that would be nice however is if we could actually have the occasional professional / objective commentary on our matches, as 90-plus minutes of tired cliches and pantomime performances from people like Martin Keown does get boring.
 
I had someone on FB (a pal i might add) mocking the child abuse connection. Told him in no uncertain terms that if he is having to use that to score points then hes already lost

im very uncomfortable with it, reds using this as a term of abuse. You know the thing,
0 european cups
£1bm spent
6 paedos

find it very weird to be honest
It’s just as others have posted jealousy pure and simple,they are desperate to find any crumb of comfort in ways of slagging us off it’s like a coping mechanism,my son was talking to his friend last week saying City the best team in domestic English football history his mate says strangely no way utd team that won league and champions league in 2007-8,my son said I didn’t mention European football just domestic,thick as fuck he told him to do one..
 
Young glory fans who skipped a generation or two thinking they create a better atmosphere.
 
I don't think that picking a particular lie is really instructive. All of them are spun to create an overarching narrative and are connected with one another thus:

We have no history - i.e. we're a small club who've never been of much consequence (and by implication are undeserving of success), which feeds into

Empty seats / no fans - i.e. as a result, we have a small support (and by implication are thus even more undeserving of success than you might think from our lack of history alone), which feeds into

Financial doping - i.e. as a result, we can't generate the finance from our tiny support base to compete with the more deserving big (or 'proper') clubs without someone pumping vast amounts of cash in, which feeds into

State-owned - i.e. as a result, no one would buy no-fans and no-history City as an investment so we're reliant on funding from a state desperate to use a winning football machine to burnish its image worldwide, which feeds into

Sportswashing - i.e. the only kind of state we can attract to this end is one desperate to hide its abhorrent, widespread use of torture and its commonplace murdering of gays from a furious and morally upright onlooking world (which nonetheless uniformly had never previously given a fuck), which feeds into

Cheats - i.e. as a result, constrained by the noble construct that is FFP (brought in with a view to stopping immoral owners such as ours), we blatantly cheat the system and get away with it because we can afford the best lawyers and accountants, which feeds into

Nobody cares - i.e. as a result, the footballing world believes that our success is hollow so they ignore us (despite writing vast reams of material to make sure that everyone's aware of just how much they actually don't care), which feeds into

Boring - i.e we aren't saved by the fact that we achieve our success with football that's the direct, linear successor of Rinus Michels's style in the seventies and Pep's Barca (probably the best club side ever seen) because our game is in fact sterile and dull.

The whole thing is both laughable and yet pernicious in its mendacity, but remember the words: "organised and clear". This is the PR aspect of the campaign against us.

The other aspect of it was shown in someone hacking our servers to order. That was followed by a trawl through the resultant material to find something that could bring us down, with client-journalist media cheerleaders, egged on by rival clubs, wilfully misrepresenting the negligible nature of what was discovered in an attempt (which nearly worked) to create a febrile atmosphere in which the authorities would feel unable to decline to punish us.

I hear what City fans say when they argue we should just ignore the media. But actually, when you look at what this bullshit represents and who's behind it, then those of use who elect to do so have every justification IMO for taking it seriously.
 
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I don't think that picking a particular lie is really instructive. All of them are spun to create an overarching narrative and are connected with one another thus:

We have no history - i.e. we're a small club who've never been of much consequence (and by implication are undeserving of success), which feeds into

Empty seats / no fans - i.e. as a result, we have a small support (and by implication are thus even more undeserving of success than you might think from our lack of history alone), which feeds into

Financial doping - i.e. as a result, we can't generate the finance from our tiny support base to compete with the more deserving big (or 'proper') clubs without someone pumping vast amounts of cash in, which feeds into

State-owned - i.e. as a result, no one would buy no-fans and no-history City as an investment so we're reliant on funding from a state desperate to use a winning football machine to burnish its image worldwide, which feeds into

Sportswashing - i.e. the only kind of state we can attract to this end is one desperate to hide its abhorrent, widespread use of torture and its commonplace murdering of gays from a furious andAs morally upright onlooking world (which nonetheless uniformly had never previously given a fuck), which feeds into

Cheats - i.e. as a result, constrained by the noble construct that is FFP (brought in with a view to stopping immoral owners such as ours), we blatantly cheat the system and get away with it because we can afford the best lawyers and accountants, which feeds into

Nobody cares - i.e. as a result, the footballing world believes that our success is hollow so they ignore us (despite writing vast reams of material to make sure that everyone's aware of just how much they actually don't care), which feeds into

Boring - i.e we aren't saved by the fact that we achieve our success with football that's the direct, linear successor of Rinus Michels's style in the seventies and Pep's Barca (probably the best club side ever seen) because our game is in fact sterile and dull.

The whole thing is both laughable and yet pernicious in its mendacity, but remember the words: "organised and clear". This is the PR aspect of the campaign against us.

The other aspect of it was shown in someone hacking our servers to order. That was followed by a trawl through the resultant material to find something that could bring us down, with client-journalist media cheerleaders, egged on by rival clubs, wilfully misrepresenting the negligible nature of what was found in an attempt (which nearly worked) to create a febrile atmosphere in which the authorities would feel unable to decline to punish us.

I hear what City fans say when they argue we should just ignore the media. But actually, when you look at what this bullshit represents and who's behind it, then those of use who elect to do so have every justification IMO for taking it seriously.
I would add that there's a time and place to fight our corner. To respond to clickbait on their digital sites is sometime self-defeating as we just create a focus for revenue, and trolls.
 
In general none of it really bothers me - never really has.

The media stuff is just born out of jealousy, laziness and a lack of intelligence, with a bit of racism thrown in for good measure. They’re all dancing to our tune now, whether they realise it or not. When people have a go about us in person, I actually quite enjoy it as I’ve always been argumentative and pretty good at taking the piss.

Bottom line is I’ll take the bitterness and jealousy which follows our success over being patronised when we were shit any day of the week.

The one thing that would be nice however is if we could actually have the occasional professional / objective commentary on our matches, as 90-plus minutes of tired cliches and pantomime performances from people like Martin Keown does get boring.
It doesn't bother me if we are winning and there are no consequences. It annoyed me a lot when we were facing UEFA sanctions. Then the publicity barrage had consequences, or I felt it did. I thought CAS would be forced to back UEFA by weight of 'popular opinion'.
 
Not worried by any of them because anyone believing any one of them is an ignorant idiot. JJ
The trouble is that no one in football is neutral, therefore Arsenal, Liverpool, Man Utd fans will all readily claim City are state owned cheats etc etc.
 
Usually find its the couch potato plastic fans of the 'istree club who regurgitate all the bullshit , the type of fan who couldnt find Manchester or Liverpool on a map and have zero affinity with the locality of the clubs , they dont have the intelligence to consider facts they just follow like sheep. Really do think our fanbase is different , no doubt glory hunters and JCL's have come on board in recent years but the vast majority of our support have been through the barren years and come out the other side.
We might only be 40k strong on match days but we are worth more than 659m plastics.
 
None of it gets on my wick. Maybe the 'no history' brigade a little, mostly because we have such a rich and varied history with equal success and failure. All part of the fun. Always good to remind bin dippers we won a European trophy before they did ;)
 
The 'no history' one is more amusing than annoying these days. We are re-writing Premier League history with every passing season. Anyone who gets upset about this just needs to think forward a few years and enjoy the ride
 
The 'no history' one is more amusing than annoying these days. We are re-writing Premier League history with every passing season. Anyone who gets upset about this just needs to think forward a few years and enjoy the ride
This is the beauty of breaking loads of records. Difficult to argue that the team that was the first and only team to get 100 points in a season has no history.
 
I have to admit it rarely bothers me. At Brighton away one of there fans was shouting across the divide ‘we have no fans’. Now I doubt there was one Brighton hearing that who thought Brighton were better supported than City, particularly as the stated attendance would have been the lowest crowd ever recorded for a League match at the Etihad.

What people say/shout or write, particular now with the advent of social medIa, is often to get a reaction, pull someone or something down. I used to do it myself when United were sweeping up trophies, with you dont have any fans in Manchester gag (even though I knew it was not true).

Sadly the more reaction this type of nonsense gets the more it gets stated and sadly a lot of City fans have given a lot of non-entities a platform by giving these clowns their two minutes of fame. They must love to see their tweets, for example plastered across this forum and then get City fans reacting to it - job done for them and just encourages more of the same.

So no it does not bother me as I know the majority of the stuff they dont even believe themselves and refuse to give them the reaction they crave.

With regards journalists that can, in the heat of the moment, prove infuriating, as did the BT coverage of the match against Arsenal.

However If you are knowledgeable on any subject you typically find inaccuracies in reporting, so I would not expect anything better from Sports journalists, who lets face it or not up there with the war/political/ economic reporters of their profession.

To me the sensationalism in reporting and fake narratives in football is just a reflection of the dumbing down of society. Sports reporting has turned into an extension of Fan bantz, Interesting social experiments like Big Brother have morphed into Geordie Shore and Made in Chelsea and World Leaders have proven themselves as compulsive liars. We live in a click bait/reactionary world.
 
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Is this wick or t**s or wick and t**s because if it is the former as a middle aged owner of man-boobs I object to this blatant use of discrimination…oh and none of it bothers me or my wick or my t**s…:)
 
The "no history" jibe. We were founded in the 19th Century, which should but won't speak volumes for the bitters. But the overriding issue is that they're equating silverware with history. Owing to their flawed logic, there are only about 2-3% of English clubs with "history." Which is patently untrue. Try telling an Oldham fan or Notts County fan they don't have history. Try telling my Dad, who followed City up and down the country in the 60's and 70's, that we have no history. Football wasn't and isn't just about winning trophies, if it was then it would never have become a cornerstone of British tradition. Football is an institution in this country because there are literally hundreds of football clubs with rich heritage and proud followings; not because Liverpool won the majority of their trophies in the 80's, or because United won the majority of theirs in the 90's. It's a grossly inaccurate generalisation which is only given traction because significant swathes of rival fans have the mental capacity of a pissed Neanderthal and are influenced by social media memes and likes. They said the same about Chelsea and doubtless they'll say the same about Newcastle. Fortunately, I still have United mates who can have nuanced debates on our rise and aren't blinded by the propaganda, so it's reassuring to know the open-minded supporter still exists.

It sounds cliche; but the hate really does make the success all the sweeter.

CTID.
 

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