Who is proud they voted Tory ?

[CitizenTID]

Lifelong Labour supporter but I'd take May or Cameron over Corbyn. The c@nt has taken us back 20 years.

Taken back 20 years? He's not done out! Or if you mean within the party then, I wouldn't count shedding a load of backstabbers that don't have any sense of loyalty taking the party back 20 years. I can't tell the difference between them and Tory when it comes to acting on things.

Clearly he has a weak side, but he has shown a strong side too sticking it out through the tough (unlike Cameron). Like Trump he'd be preferable for me to shake things up to get us to turn back onto the right path even though there are downsides. I suspect he'd have a weak stance on immigration though which could be severe considering the strains we're under - technological advancement, economical and social management needs to be ahead of immigration and it's seriously behind at the moment.

 

[The Colonel]

What has happened under this government is the drastic reduction in social care funding. I've been saying for years that the effects of this would be felt or realised in the near future. That time has arrived. Cameron and Osborne knew that no one would realise or object at the time as the impacts weren't immediate. This is their legacy. A stealthily contrived attack on the most needy. Those who won't or can't hit the streets to make a protest. Utter gutless and heartless yet they still go unchallenged on this. A problem with the short-termism of U.K. Politics.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Correct. And many people should not be there. Even in the TV article last night, there was a bloke being interviewed in A&E who had fallen and sprained his wrist and he was showing the doctor, waving his arm around freely, without a grimace or hinderance. I thought to myself, WTF are you doing in A&E??? The bloke said the last time he went to A&E, he waited 4 hours and then gave up and went home. To which I thought, "if that episode had been serious enough, surely you'd have waited 5, 6 or 10 hours or however long you needed in order to be seen." He probably shouldn't have been in A&E that time either.

There's a bunch of people who seem to think A&E is like a 24x7 outpatients clinic and ambulances are free taxi services to ferry them there and back. My mother-in-law being one such person, btw.

its always been the same regarding patients attending A&E with trivial problems. it hasnt alway that GP`s surgeries have long waiting list to see the doctor. it`s sometimes near impossible to see the doctor within the same week

 

[cookster]

Your maths is shit the 70's were longer than 20 years ago

Aye it's not great but I didn't mean literally as in a timeline.

Taken back 20 years? He's not done out! Or if you mean within the party then, I wouldn't count shedding a load of backstabbers that don't have any sense of loyalty taking the party back 20 years. I can't tell the difference between them and Tory when it comes to acting on things.

Clearly he has a weak side, but he has shown a strong side too sticking it out through the tough (unlike Cameron). Like Trump he'd be preferable for me to shake things up to get us to turn back onto the right path even though there are downsides. I suspect he'd have a weak stance on immigration though which could be severe considering the strains we're under - technological advancement and economical management needs to be ahead of immigration and it's seriously behind at the moment.

Most of those backstabbers know he's unelectable even against the weakest Tory party for decades. He probably won't even make the next election.

 

[worsleyweb]

The NHS in its current form is not viable but successive governments can't or wont change it because the voters who cry like little babies when it's at breaking point which it seems to have been forever will properly wet their knickers if they did. Each party just tries to blag their way through till the next election. 5 year election cycles based on party policies and the fuckwittery of the great British public means we shall be having this debate forever and a day.

You could just show repeats of question time and no one would be any the wiser. Apart from Robin Day being dead obviously.

Went to a property conference the other day and the government are able to govern properly and plan ahead as they can confidently state that it will be 2025 before labour are a threat again.

 

[CitizenTID]

Aye it's not great but I didn't mean literally as in a timeline.



Most of those backstabbers know he's unelectable even against the weakest Tory party for decades. He probably won't even make the next election.

I'd heavily disagree. i think that whole coup even though it failed is what has made him "unelectable." From my observations he was inspiring your average persons that wouldn't normally vote because Labour and Tory is two shades of grey to most. After that coup it's ramped up in the social consciousness that he's "unelectable," mainly because the Labour party has become a joke and don't remotely look stable management to run a country. I still reckon he'd do much better than those saying he's unelectable with a lot of quiet voters like Trump but I wouldn't be confident of him snatching it after time has gone on. You never know, the more the "establishment" tells the people he's unelectable, the more the people might be inclined to test that, just like June 24th.

 

[cookster]

I'd heavily disagree. i think that whole coup even though it failed is what has made him "unelectable." From my observations he was inspiring your average persons that wouldn't normally vote because Labour and Tory is two shades of grey to most. After that coup it's ramped up in the social consciousness that he's "unelectable," mainly because the Labour party has become a joke and don't remotely look stable management to run a country. I still reckon he'd do much better than those saying he's unelectable with a lot of quiet voters like Trump but I wouldn't be confident of him snatching it after time has gone on. You never know, the more the "establishment" tells the people he's unelectable, the more the people might be inclined to test that, just like June 24th.

Inspiring and Corbyn shouldn't be used in the same decade, never mind sentence.

His weak leadership lead to the failed coup, he's had more shuffles than Party Rock.

 

[malg]

Rascal likes this thread.......

 

[big gaz]

This is like - The agenda thread on bluemoon .

 

[Manncity]

Always voted labour since 1982,never again they are so out of touch now.
Since the brexit arguments they don't represent me anymore,I've had my fill of them,Blair let the working classes down totally,
so at the moment I'm more in touch with a leftist tory party.