Why are we always so poor against Klopp’s Liverpool?

[GaudinoMotors]

Milner, Henderson and Oxlade-Chamberlain were their midfield. If that was picked by Southgate there’d be an absolute outcry. What actually happened was, we played poorly and defended like muppets for 45 minutes. It’s no more complex than that.

As opposition fans we want to believe that naturally.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Anfield... its like another dimension....

It's all RDAHMeedya/Redshite mythology! It's down to the performance on the pitch. In the 40 years where we haven't won the Dippers had probably the best team in Europe so scrub those years. The years when we could compete we lose by a small margin, and where we should beat them but don't it's down to the way we have set up, the individual performances of players, the rub of the green, the bounce of the ball, and the lack of an eagle-eyed lino!

The statistics of not winning for 40 years don't stand up to statistical ANALYSIS!

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Because our football is similar to Amir Khan's boxing....

Looks fucking brilliant until the opposition actually decide to throw some punches back.

Some may say Liverpool got the luck last night, but as they saying goes, those that work hard seem to get more of it.

In short it was a poor performance caused by primarily a lack of collective fight.

When we play doggedly determined opposition our creativity can generally overcome, even if we have to wait for the dying seconds of a game. Where we play doggedly determined opposition who have a strike force we tend to use one of the Colt 45s and shoot ourselves in one foot or the other. It's also pretty apparent that we love rolling the boulder down the hill if it's already at the top, but baulk at shoving it up the hill if it's resting at the bottom.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Klopp’s Liverpool? Because they are bigger and stronger and willing to fight to stop us playing the same way we always play.

But, it is not just Klopp’s Liverpool...it is every time Pep plays Klopp.

Pep telegraphs how he will play and Klopp is smart enough, with the requisite players, to blunt it and attack its open weaknesses. Everyone knows the weaknesses, but very few teams have the wherewithal to come close to exposing them. Klopp’s Liverpool does.

At Anfield, against a Klopp team that did EXACTLY what they did in the league, we had exactly the same outcome. We have lost to one Premier League team this season. Unfortunately, this is the second time, and it was ugly and in the Champions League Quarter Final!

Learn the lesson...or don’t...but don’t cry if it happens again.

I would kill to be a fly on the wall when Khaldoon and Mansour discuss this game, and Pep’s approach to it! Hopefully, it will loosen the purse strings to address the problem!

 

[Breadsnapper]

Quite simply were out fought. Combine that with the fact for some reason our team when we play them forgot they are footballers and we get the result we got. We can blame poor officiating for the first goal all we like but the fact is on the night we let ourselves down, badly. And thus help perpetuate the anfield myth.
Personally I didn't like peps pre-match comments in how our players didn't think they belonged in the CL and that we had to respect their European successes. But it was up to the players to prove him wrong and they didn't.

 

[SWP's back]

Personally I didn't like peps pre-match comments in how our players didn't think they belonged in the CL and that we had to respect their European successes.

Because you made them up perhaps?

 

[princey08]

people are saying we should set out differently from the way we play. Didn't we do that? we sacrificed a second winger/forward 3 with pace for a player who is meant to be calm on the ball and he trusted a new arrival (out of position) who again is meant to be excellent on the ball and playing it out instead of systems he used all season, ilkay is a good European club player but does lack the pace needed against British football as was shown last night. also we seemed second to every ball and instead of running direct to payers like de Bruyne and co have done all season they seemed to try and split players and look for interceptions instead which ended up with players on their arse a hell of a lot more. we can't take much from the 2nd half as the game was killed. away goal - I'm happy we didn't concede a 4th because we fucking deserved too last night no matter how much luck they had with offsides decisions, balls falling to them, blah blah blah we were shit and they went for us

 

[Breadsnapper]

No

Because you made them up perhaps?

Nope pre match interview.

 

[Steve68]

When we play doggedly determined opposition our creativity can generally overcome, even if we have to wait for the dying seconds of a game. Where we play doggedly determined opposition who have a strike force we tend to use one of the Colt 45s and shoot ourselves in one foot or the other. It's also pretty apparent that we love rolling the boulder down the hill if it's already at the top, but baulk at shoving it up the hill if it's resting at the bottom.

True but Liverpool in an Anfield on fire weren’t just doggedly determined in the two games, they fought like Vikings. Can’t take it away from them. When it matters they outfight and outcompete us. More spirit, more determination and more sheer muscle.

 

[Gray]

Because we do not match their effort in the early part of the game and therefore are usually goals behind before the play settles down.

To win there we would have to up our effort in the first half, not just fanny about.