Why doesn't the bible mention dinosaurs?

corky1970 said:
I'll say this again, the day the world looks back in shame at religion and its evil doctrine will be a day to rejoice , won't be for many thousands of years but as a race we will evolve to such an extent the bible will be looked on as what it so clearly is , a plagurised copy of pagan and Egyptian gods and stories , written by men at a time when control of the population and law setting was needed , how this monster has lasted through the years is frightening , but power corrupts and religion is evil corruption personified,

If you are religious , carry on , do you own thing , I don't hate you , ill be your friend , I know right from wrong., I'm a good guy .
I don't need a lying book to guide me .

surely I'm not alone at bring one of the " awaken"
Burn the heretic !

well said
 
Bluemoon115 said:
chestervegasblue said:
Thanks Damocles. On the scientific method question...can you actually prove anything absolutely? You can say that every time you let go of something it will fall to the floor because gravity is scientifically proven to always occur. But what if one day it didn't happen...the proven scientific theory of gravity as we know it would no longer be complete fact, right? Things are "proven" within the limits of what we know. People used to believe that the earth was flat because you never went upside down when you were sailing somewhere.

Scientific discovery will probably keep on occurring indefinitely, what I'm saying is I can't understand how people can put their faith and trust in something that they know is constantly subject to change and use it to be sure that there is nothing more than what we can see right now...it's a bit of a paradox. In that sense, yes I am slightly confused!
Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth


Apologies, but that wasn't actually the main point I was making...it was that scientific discovery often disproves previous science, and in view of that familiar, though now I see incorrect example, that we are being naiive if we think that what we know now is the limit of that! Substitute that analogy for the sun revolving around the earth?<br /><br />-- Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:06 pm --<br /><br />
tonea2003 said:
chestervegasblue said:
Thanks Damocles. On the scientific method question...can you actually prove anything absolutely? You can say that every time you let go of something it will fall to the floor because gravity is scientifically proven to always occur. But what if one day it didn't happen...the proven scientific theory of gravity as we know it would no longer be complete fact, right? Things are "proven" within the limits of what we know. People used to believe that the earth was flat because you never went upside down when you were sailing somewhere.

Scientific discovery will probably keep on occurring indefinitely, what I'm saying is I can't understand how people can put their faith and trust in something that they know is constantly subject to change and use it to be sure that there is nothing more than what we can see right now...it's a bit of a paradox. In that sense, yes I am slightly confused!

interested in your belief in virgin births and resurrections. based on what?because its written in this particular tome so it must be true.
if i said there was one in ardwick last week would you believe me?

I believe that my God is the creator of the universe...he knows how it works, he can change it if he wants to. If God did something so huge as create everything, then actually causing a virgin to give birth, or someone to return to life, isn't impossible for him to do.
If someone came up to me and said that God had brought them back to life...why shouldn't I believe them? The whole point of my faith is that I believe in a God who is unchanging...so whether it's back then, today, or next week.

I don't believe that people in the Bible (Jesus being the exception) are any more special or holy than you or I.
 
chestervegasblue said:
Bluemoon115 said:


Apologies, but that wasn't actually the main point I was making...it was that scientific discovery often disproves previous science, and in view of that familiar, though now I see incorrect example, that we are being naiive if we think that what we know now is the limit of that! Substitute that analogy for the sun revolving around the earth?

-- Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:06 pm --

tonea2003 said:
interested in your belief in virgin births and resurrections. based on what?because its written in this particular tome so it must be true.
if i said there was one in ardwick last week would you believe me?

I believe that my God is the creator of the universe...he knows how it works, he can change it if he wants to. If God did something so huge as create everything, then actually causing a virgin to give birth, or someone to return to life, isn't impossible for him to do.
If someone came up to me and said that God had brought them back to life...why shouldn't I believe them? The whole point of my faith is that I believe in a God who is unchanging...so whether it's back then, today, or next week.

I don't believe that people in the Bible (Jesus being the exception) are any more special or holy than you or I.

yet you base your faith in something you cannot prove, you talk as if he/she/whatever actually exists in one form or another without any foundation apart from faith. something you would not do with anything else in your life.
quite extraordinary.
 
Bluemoon115 said:
Simple question for followers of any religion. Without giving a flippant answer, just answer the following question with real thought.

Why is faith good?

Probably because it was George Michael's first solo LP,and he still had a few creative ideas,before he decided to smoke his bodyweight in draw and total half the parked cars in London.
 
tonea2003 said:
chestervegasblue said:
Apologies, but that wasn't actually the main point I was making...it was that scientific discovery often disproves previous science, and in view of that familiar, though now I see incorrect example, that we are being naiive if we think that what we know now is the limit of that! Substitute that analogy for the sun revolving around the earth?

-- Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:06 pm --



I believe that my God is the creator of the universe...he knows how it works, he can change it if he wants to. If God did something so huge as create everything, then actually causing a virgin to give birth, or someone to return to life, isn't impossible for him to do.
If someone came up to me and said that God had brought them back to life...why shouldn't I believe them? The whole point of my faith is that I believe in a God who is unchanging...so whether it's back then, today, or next week.

I don't believe that people in the Bible (Jesus being the exception) are any more special or holy than you or I.

yet you base your faith in something you cannot prove, you talk as if he/she/whatever actually exists in one form or another without any foundation apart from faith. something you would not do with anything else in your life.
quite extraordinary.

Technically false...I'm a City fan who was born in 1987, I have faith we can win something soon! It's kind of the point though that faith is extraordinary. My point to Damocles originally was that we can't prove anything absolutely...my personal choice is to believe in something that I have experienced but cannot prove to be 100% true...just like everybody else.
 
chestervegasblue said:
pominoz said:
The sync is out a bit,but so beautifully put..

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_z58snmZss[/youtube]

In the same way that Christopher has a belief that these things could not have happened, I have a belief that the virgin birth and the resurrection did happen, and that the other resurrections in Matthew could have happened as well. There are many who are under the impression that Science proves things absolutely, whereas actually all scientific theory is based on the fact that something hasn't been disproved. It's a scientific "fact" that no two fingerprints are the same, because there has been nothing to disprove it. Should a reason for not believing in something being possible simply be that people have never seen it happen or experienced it for themselves? Does that mean that when people tell us something they've seen that we shouldn't trust them?

I'm a self-confessed Christian. I work for a church, but even if I died and nothing happened, I'd still be content because I know that the foundation of my life was based around having faith and trust in something good. You can all quote individual passages at me about the "God of the Old Testament" being a tyrannical maniac, but when I look at the Bible as a whole, I cannot help but see God's unfailing love for his people. That's what I have faith in.

Your loving God allows around 20.000 children to die every day. They do not have the chance to sin. Your God could save each and every one if he wanted to but each day he turns a blind eye. Their parents can pray all they want - he ignores their pleas.
I’m sure you are a nice person but your loving God and your blind faith leave me perplexed and annoyed.
 

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