Why should people work?

[stonerblue]

The first thing they should do is stop increasing any benefits/tax credits for any extra child born when the parents have been unemployed for a certain length of time.

The problem with this is that it isn't going to stop people giving birth. Then when they do, what if they can't afford to keep the child? It'll be put into our social care system which would in the long run (I'm guessing) possibly cost us more. Not to mention a child may grow up without it's parents, which should surely be wrong?

This is the kind of balance the people giving the benefits have to strike all the time.

I doubt the family in question would have 13 kids if they'd only got benefits for the 1st born.

 

[GStar]

The first thing they should do is stop increasing any benefits/tax credits for any extra child born when the parents have been unemployed for a certain length of time.

I agree with that; it would not only serve as a detterent, but i think the magority of people wouldn't be able to just give up on their own child. Once they knew there was no 'benefit' (see what i did there) to it, the liklihood of people popping kids out every other year would decline imo.

 

[stonerblue]

I just turned 14 in September and that child is a disgrace and a perfect example of the many negative stereotypes we teenagers seem to have tagged on us, as a generation.

Disgusting though, anyway.

Oh and on a side note, with names of other children in the article it says a hell of a lot about the parents of them. Mustn't have much of a hobby either, the pair of them.

I`ll lay you even money they have a staffy called tyson

It's a woman and it's called Bacardi

 

[GStar]

well, to be a tax dodger at least requires effort

No, it requires less effort than being a benefit 'cheat'.

You either:

a. throw money at a good lawyer to explore loop holes, or

b. go throguh the system convincing medical professionals you have a real injury/illness and then you continually go through the process of childbirth.

Tax dogers are, at least, equally bad. At worse there's more reason to class them as "scum".

 

[Pigeonho]

Anything where a financial gain is illicit is just as bad as benefit cheating.

If I had to make friends with:
A) A benefit cheat, or
B) An MP who has just falsely claimed for a moat for his beloved ducks, even though he's fucking filthy rich already....

I'd pick A every time. They are just as bad as each other at the end of the day, but I would have more desire to kick fuck out of the MP than the benefit cheat.

 

[kronkonite]

Do i read right

did Mackenzie just suggest no job no kids?

 

[GStar]

Do i read right

did Mackenzie just suggest no job no kids?

Think it was more... if you aren't in a position to support and bring up a child, you shouldn't be entitled to extra just because you want a child. It should be a privilege, not a right imo.

 

[JULES]

well, to be a tax dodger at least requires effort

No, it requires less effort than being a benefit 'cheat'.

You either:

a. throw money at a good lawyer to explore loop holes, or

b. go throguh the system convincing medical professionals you have a real injury/illness and then you continually go through the process of childbirth.

Tax dogers are, at least, equally bad. At worse there's more reason to class them as "scum".

one just takes- the other refuses to give

 

[adamgregory]

Think it was more... if you aren't in a position to support and bring up a child, you shouldn't be entitled to extra just because you want a child. It should be a privilege, not a right imo.

This

 

[kronkonite]

absolutely not this

here's a scenario

you have a well paid job and four kids

you lose your job ---now what?