Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[CitytillIdie74]

It's because some people are fickle and I really think they want us to follow Chelsea down the route of having an owner who acts like a spoilt twat with his toys and throws em out of the pram every fucking year cos he wants more trophies!
If he wins us the league again his year people will still whinge about wanting more success but the Chelsea Abramovich blueprint has shown us what happens when you put a turnstile on the managers door and demand the European cup every bloody year.
We have had two really really hard groups and that is a fact,Mourinho struggled to get Madrid through and thats with a bigger more experienced squad with a European pedigree.
Manchester city are not a european force yet, that is why we need to be patient and as soon as european football is commonplace for our club the confidence all around the stadium will sky rocket from squeeky bum time when the likes of Bayern and Real visit,to a bring it on attitude when Barca and AC visit.

Fans need to be patient it's not the end of the world we are second in the league and our strikers have been hiding all season!
The futures bright and it's Sky blue!

 

[crystal_mais]

It's because some people are fickle and I really think they want us to follow Chelsea down the route of having an owner who acts like a spoilt twat with his toys and throws em out of the pram every fucking year cos he wants more trophies!
If he wins us the league again his year people will still whinge about wanting more success but the Chelsea Abramovich blueprint has shown us what happens when you put a turnstile on the managers door and demand the European cup every bloody year.
We have had two really really hard groups and that is a fact,Mourinho struggled to get Madrid through and thats with a bigger more experienced squad with a European pedigree.
Manchester city are not a european force yet, that is why we need to be patient and as soon as european football is commonplace for our club the confidence all around the stadium will sky rocket from squeeky bum time when the likes of Bayern and Real visit,to a bring it on attitude when Barca and AC visit.

Fans need to be patient it's not the end of the world we are second in the league and our strikers have been hiding all season!
The futures bright and it's Sky blue!

You're asking fans to be patient. My question is will the players really be patient.

Listen to Joe Hart last night - How many other players feel the same?
The big if - if they doubt the manager - how long will they want to stay at the club? Careers are not long will the be influenced to go elsewhere?

I'm not saying there is a problem, but something is not right

 

[jay_mcfc]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

The rags last season, in case you had forgotten, were one of the worst teams United have put out in the past 10 to 15 years, with 2 old men in midfield, a joke of a goalkeeper an old man in the back 2 and their only decent defender crocked all season. And we beat them on goal difference. On the last day, in unjury time.

That terrible team you talk about got 90 points. One of the highest ever for finishing second. You can say what you like about what kind of team you thought they were but the only important thing in that debate is their points return. When you think we beat them twice and they threw two games away at the end of the season, they could quite easily have got to 100 points last season.

Mourinho is a funny one. He's won the CL twice at the two clubs you wouldn't have expected him to win with. But, if you look at his CL record with Madrid and Chelsea it should be better. Chelsea were primed to win it under him but failed yet Grant and Di Matteo then took them to the final and/or won it within a few years of him leaving.

As for the titles he has won in 4 different countries; Mancini has won three in Italy and one in England. Should he ever land jobs at Porto and Madrid I see no reason to think he couldn't win the league in those countries either, especially with those clubs.

And I'm not trying to belittle Mourinho or his achievements. For a long time he was out there on his own as the best manager in the world. His achievement in winning the league last year against that Barcelona team, by 9 points, was phenomenal. As was winning the CL with Porto and Inter. And if there was a time that Mancini left or was sacked I'd be the first one on here saying go all out to get Mourinho.

But I wouldn't sack Mancini for him.

 

[Chippy_boy]

It's because some people are fickle and I really think they want us to follow Chelsea down the route of having an owner who acts like a spoilt twat with his toys and throws em out of the pram every fucking year cos he wants more trophies!
If he wins us the league again his year people will still whinge about wanting more success but the Chelsea Abramovich blueprint has shown us what happens when you put a turnstile on the managers door and demand the European cup every bloody year.
We have had two really really hard groups and that is a fact,Mourinho struggled to get Madrid through and thats with a bigger more experienced squad with a European pedigree.
Manchester city are not a european force yet, that is why we need to be patient and as soon as european football is commonplace for our club the confidence all around the stadium will sky rocket from squeeky bum time when the likes of Bayern and Real visit,to a bring it on attitude when Barca and AC visit.

Fans need to be patient it's not the end of the world we are second in the league and our strikers have been hiding all season!
The futures bright and it's Sky blue!

With the greatest respect mate, we've heard all this CTID "the future's bright" etc etc bollocks 50,000 times, and yes we all agree with that. No-one is suggesting the world will stop spinning now we haven't got out of the group. But equally, no-one should be happy with our performances which were turgid.

It's a perfectly reasonable debate to consider whether it would be sensible at this point to upgrade the manager to a superior model. People may fall either side of the debate, but to those who say we shouldn't even be discussing it, that is silly.

 

[CitytillIdie74]

It's because some people are fickle and I really think they want us to follow Chelsea down the route of having an owner who acts like a spoilt twat with his toys and throws em out of the pram every fucking year cos he wants more trophies!
If he wins us the league again his year people will still whinge about wanting more success but the Chelsea Abramovich blueprint has shown us what happens when you put a turnstile on the managers door and demand the European cup every bloody year.
We have had two really really hard groups and that is a fact,Mourinho struggled to get Madrid through and thats with a bigger more experienced squad with a European pedigree.
Manchester city are not a european force yet, that is why we need to be patient and as soon as european football is commonplace for our club the confidence all around the stadium will sky rocket from squeeky bum time when the likes of Bayern and Real visit,to a bring it on attitude when Barca and AC visit.

Fans need to be patient it's not the end of the world we are second in the league and our strikers have been hiding all season!
The futures bright and it's Sky blue!

You're asking fans to be patient. My question is will the players really be patient.

Listen to Joe Hart last night - How many other players feel the same?
The big if - if they doubt the manager - how long will they want to stay at the club? Careers are not long will the be influenced to go elsewhere?

I'm not saying there is a problem, but something is not right

The players are not the problem with regards Mancini being sacked they realize that they didnt do enough in the competition. As for players leaving due to our exit I think thats just papertalk and Whiskynose talking shite. How many rags left last year after they were elliminated from an easy group?

 

[Chippy_boy]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

The rags last season, in case you had forgotten, were one of the worst teams United have put out in the past 10 to 15 years, with 2 old men in midfield, a joke of a goalkeeper an old man in the back 2 and their only decent defender crocked all season. And we beat them on goal difference. On the last day, in unjury time.

That terrible team you talk about got 90 points. One of the highest ever for finishing second. You can say what you like about what kind of team you thought they were but the only important thing in that debate is their points return. When you think we beat them twice and they threw two games away at the end of the season, they could quite easily have got to 100 points last season.

That's a fair point.

But as I said in ensuing posts (or was it even the same post) the performance SAF - who is also clearly one of the very best managers in the world - manages to get out of a squad of largely average players, is quite remarkable.

I don't think the performance Mancini managed to get out of our squad of players is remotely remarkable. If anything it was underachievement.

 

[Berkovic_blue]

SAF? Jesus wept

 

[Chippy_boy]

SAF? Jesus wept

Why did he weep mate? What are you on about?

 

[jay_mcfc]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

I don't think the performance Mancini managed to get out of our squad of players is remotely remarkable. If anything it was underachievement.

Not including this years Champions League disappointments, that is just simply something that is wrong. I couldn't even be arsed to argue about that.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

I like how you and billy dodge his time at madrid

I'm not dodging anything. So YES he has. I thought that was obvious from my replies.

Barcelona in case you had forgotten are widely regarded as being one of, if not THE best footballing side ever to grace this planet. And under Mourinho's leadership, Real finished 9 points above them.

The rags last season, in case you had forgotten, were one of the worst teams United have put out in the past 10 to 15 years, with 2 old men in midfield, a joke of a goalkeeper an old man in the back 2 and their only decent defender crocked all season. And we beat them on goal difference. On the last day, in unjury time.

I don't know why we are even having this discussion quite honestly.

I will probably get abuse for this, but fuck it, I am going to say it:

Had SAF been our manager last seaon and Bobby theirs, SAF would have walked it.

You mean the same alex ferguson who threw one of the biggest leads away with 6 games to go in football history?

i think he`s trying to say with our squad he thinks ferguson would has won by a bigger margin. and i think he has a valid point