BlueMoonz1977 said:But we have failed miserably in the champions league which was no-one else's fault except Bobby's tactical failings.
Bollocks IMO.
BlueMoonz1977 said:But we have failed miserably in the champions league which was no-one else's fault except Bobby's tactical failings.
_dreamer_ said:Man Utd is a better team because they have a better manager, not because they have better individual players. That alone proves that you should look around for another manager.
Yes, Mancini won three thropies and I am aware that Man City fans treat him as a hero for that. However, I think that those people are still missing the big picture. Man City has invested over last 5 years more than any other club in England, you have currently the best squad in England, you had it also last year. You should be playing CL semi finals or quarter finals at least because the squad definitely has the potential. As regards Premier League, you were for me last year favourite No 1 and for many other neutral followers.
You need to stop drawing comparisons to a Man City before sheikh Mansour, you had an average team back then and were clearly not able to compete with the top teams. Now you have de facto unlimited funds and best players. Considering all this, those three thropies were nothing extraordinary given the circumstances, even if you fans think that it's a huge achievement. You have to aim for more, especially in CL, and you shouldn't wait another 5 years to achieve it. I personally think that this team could be one of the best with the right manager...
IMO Mancini is a good manager, but you need better than good.
moomba said:BlueMoonz1977 said:But we have failed miserably in the champions league which was no-one else's fault except Bobby's tactical failings.
Bollocks IMO.
sir baconface said:_dreamer_ said:Man Utd is a better team because they have a better manager, not because they have better individual players. That alone proves that you should look around for another manager.
Yes, Mancini won three thropies and I am aware that Man City fans treat him as a hero for that. However, I think that those people are still missing the big picture. Man City has invested over last 5 years more than any other club in England, you have currently the best squad in England, you had it also last year. You should be playing CL semi finals or quarter finals at least because the squad definitely has the potential. As regards Premier League, you were for me last year favourite No 1 and for many other neutral followers.
You need to stop drawing comparisons to a Man City before sheikh Mansour, you had an average team back then and were clearly not able to compete with the top teams. Now you have de facto unlimited funds and best players. Considering all this, those three thropies were nothing extraordinary given the circumstances, even if you fans think that it's a huge achievement. You have to aim for more, especially in CL, and you shouldn't wait another 5 years to achieve it. I personally think that this team could be one of the best with the right manager...
IMO Mancini is a good manager, but you need better than good.
Interesting post, dreamer. I hate to say it but I agree about u*d's manager and you are right to put Mancini's achievements into financial perspective. However this doesn't prove we must discard him.
Bacon isn't the best yardstick because (choke) he has been truly exceptional, arguably a one-off. That calibre of manager just doesn't grow on trees. Mourinho and Pep may be excellent in parts but one is seriously flawed and the other not fully proven in our situation. They both divide opinion on here. If we do change manager let's not kid ourselves: it will be another gamble.
Despite the financial revolution some things don't change. We've been here so many times.
BillyShears said:NipHolmes said:I think Bayern link is leverage personally.
Now that is nailed on. Pep to Germany as about as likely as Mourinho to Paris. Leverage, and very transparent leverage at that.
NipHolmes said:BillyShears said:NipHolmes said:I think Bayern link is leverage personally.
Now that is nailed on. Pep to Germany as about as likely as Mourinho to Paris. Leverage, and very transparent leverage at that.
I've got to be convinced that its a proper option.
Country with a tongue not spoken in Spain. Few Spanish players in league and team. A league thats on the up but 3rd behind La Liga and Premier League in both talent and money.
Him and Mourinho are both coming here. I make United faves for Jose and us for Pep. I predicted RDM going from Chelsea and I think the premature nature of sacking has hindered them. Nothings set obviously and its conjecture but common sense is needed to draw a proper opinion and prediction.