Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[Ducado]

I have not read any hatred on Mancini, I think he has a place in everyone's heart and will always have a place there, however there is no hiding from the fact that we have gone backwards.

We are not playing how we used to do, he doesn't seem to have man management skills of the other top managers, look at the Dortmund manager and what budget he has used. I'm not classing Lennon but he got his team motivated to beat quote " the best team ever assembled" I think that's on this thread somewhere. Mancini just doesn't seem to be able to raise them.

So Ducado if you think our comments about spirit, passion, structure, pace and man management are a sign of our hatred then you are sadly mistaken.

It's called an informed decision not blind love for someone like you do as a lovesick child.

I am eternally grateful but things have to improve, a convincing win on Sunday will help !!! Or any win really. But we aren't putting ourselves up there with the best at present !!!

I think Ducado should work on his basic mathematics skills. Clearly he can't count beyond 5.

But I do know an obsessive when I see one!

 

[Anonymous]

But I do know an MCFC obsessive when I see one!

There fixed for you.

Now tell me, is it really worth repeating such tedious LIES as "they only come on here after we lose".

I'm still staggered that after such an appalling performance in Europe, one which frankly Mancini AND his players should be ashamed of, there are people trying to censor other forum users' views simply because they don't tow some imaginary morally correct party line.

 

[Pigeonho]

But I do know an MCFC obsessive when I see one!

There fixed for you.

Now tell me, is it really worth repeating such tedious LIES as "they only come on here after we lose".

I'm still staggered that after such an appalling performance in Europe, one which frankly Mancini AND his players should be ashamed of, there are people trying to censor other forum users' views simply because they don't tow some imaginary morally correct party line.

Bingo, and will be nominated by my goodself in the 'post of the year' category in the upcoming awards

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I have not read any hatred on Mancini, I think he has a place in everyone's heart and will always have a place there, however there is no hiding from the fact that we have gone backwards.

We are not playing how we used to do, he doesn't seem to have man management skills of the other top managers, look at the Dortmund manager and what budget he has used. I'm not classing Lennon but he got his team motivated to beat quote " the best team ever assembled" I think that's on this thread somewhere. Mancini just doesn't seem to be able to raise them.

So Ducado if you think our comments about spirit, passion, structure, pace and man management are a sign of our hatred then you are sadly mistaken.

It's called an informed decision not blind love for someone like you do as a lovesick child.

I am eternally grateful but things have to improve, a convincing win on Sunday will help !!! Or any win really. But we aren't putting ourselves up there with the best at present !!!

I think Ducado should work on his basic mathematics skills. Clearly he can't count beyond 5.

But I do know an obsessive when I see one!

can I suggest you either moderate or stay out of discussions which are clearly beyond you?

The whole of football is talking about mancini's future at the moment so
I'd say it's you and your ilk who are the blind obsesssives, not the people on this thread.

 

[Anonymous]

Bingo, and will be nominated by my goodself in the 'post of the year' category in the upcoming awards

I'll probably miss the awards as I only come on here after we lose ... ;)

 

[bernabias home shirt]

I think Ducado should work on his basic mathematics skills. Clearly he can't count beyond 5.

But I do know an obsessive when I see one!

can I suggest you either moderate or stay out of discussions which are clearly beyond you?

The whole of football is talking about mancini's future at the moment so
I'd say it's you and your ilk who are the blind obsesssives, not the people on this thread.

Yes but after a defeat we dont want folk coming on the board asking our directors to go and get moo like you did.

 

[Scareye]

I don't want Mancini sacked because if he is it probably means that results haven't been good enough and at the end of the day all that matters is the success of the football club most of us have followed all our lives.

That said, performances like the one on Tuesday and most in europe are not good enough and will lead to opinions that other managers would do a better job with the squad we have. Win the league he probably stays, finish second he may well not, and if that is the case I would like Mourinho.

 

[Anonymous]

But I do know an obsessive when I see one!

can I suggest you either moderate or stay out of discussions which are clearly beyond you?

The whole of football is talking about mancini's future at the moment so
I'd say it's you and your ilk who are the blind obsesssives, not the people on this thread.

Yes but after a defeat we dont want folk coming on the board asking our directors to go and get moo

Then start a forum where you get to decide what people want.

 

[MCFCTrick]

Why don't we keep this thread for the York Police, the Cellar Shadow Cabinet and the Happy Clappers? You can all 'Forza Mancini' and 'grow a pair' each other to your heart's content while the rest of us talk football elsewhere ;-)

Didn't you have the same agenda against Hughes too? Is there ANY manager you would be happy with? Are you a Blue at all really??

 

[mekonmcfc]

I have not read any hatred on Mancini, I think he has a place in everyone's heart and will always have a place there, however there is no hiding from the fact that we have gone backwards.

We are not playing how we used to do, he doesn't seem to have man management skills of the other top managers, look at the Dortmund manager and what budget he has used. I'm not classing Lennon but he got his team motivated to beat quote " the best team ever assembled" I think that's on this thread somewhere. Mancini just doesn't seem to be able to raise them.

So Ducado if you think our comments about spirit, passion, structure, pace and man management are a sign of our hatred then you are sadly mistaken.

It's called an informed decision not blind love for someone like you do as a lovesick child.

I am eternally grateful but things have to improve, a convincing win on Sunday will help !!! Or any win really. But we aren't putting ourselves up there with the best at present !!!

I think Ducado should work on his basic mathematics skills. Clearly he can't count beyond 5.

But I do know an obsessive when I see one!

Must be amazing to be as great as you, because you post a lot does not make you right, and your silly responses. Calling me obsessive for responding to a silly post. I think it's the first time I've ever responded to you.

And I find your opinion totally baseless as you do mine. But I come up with a structured post you just try and be clever and either call someone a rag or a new fan.

 

[Mike D]

To bring in Pep

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

To bring in Pep

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

It's getting to the big decision time for the board now, because it seems that at least Mourinho & Pep will be available in the summer.

They either have to decide that whatever happens this season they will back Mancini, give him within reason what he wants in the transfer market unlike last season and say that we believe for the next couple of years he can deliver what we want, as Mou and Pep won't be available after the summer for a couple of years most likely.

If they don't then if, as is likely, we go for one of the above then there are pitfalls to consider. Mou likes investment in his squad, likes having wingers, a grafter in midfield alongside a creator and doesn't favour bringing through youth, contrary to what we're trying to do and will want rid of players such as Balo and the likes of Maicon I suspect, however he is proven in England and in Europe and has a lot of experience, especially of winning trophies. Pep will bring through youth, will want a smaller squad(cuts the wage bill) and there may will be then a lack of investment in the squad and as shown by last summer when we don't spend the money properly we struggle. It may also see the end of the likes of Yaya and the transition on the pitch may need some patience and time that at present some members of the fanbase don't seem to want to give Mancini, and he has no other managerial experience outside of Barca, and the setup would have to be created here and at present the talent pool is nowhere near as fruitful.

Either way we have to spend our money right, it's probably the biggest decision the owners will have to make as it will see us into the FFPR era with a certain philosophy.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

It's getting to the big decision time for the board now, because it seems that at least Mourinho & Pep will be available in the summer.

They either have to decide that whatever happens this season they will back Mancini, give him within reason what he wants in the transfer market unlike last season and say that we believe for the next couple of years he can deliver what we want, as Mou and Pep won't be available after the summer for a couple of years most likely.

If they don't then if, as is likely, we go for one of the above then there are pitfalls to consider. Mou likes investment in his squad, likes having wingers, a grafter in midfield alongside a creator and doesn't favour bringing through youth, contrary to what we're trying to do and will want rid of players such as Balo and the likes of Maicon I suspect, however he is proven in England and in Europe and has a lot of experience, especially of winning trophies. Pep will bring through youth, will want a smaller squad(cuts the wage bill) and there may will be then a lack of investment in the squad and as shown by last summer when we don't spend the money properly we struggle. It may also see the end of the likes of Yaya and the transition on the pitch may need some patience and time that at present some members of the fanbase don't seem to want to give Mancini, and he has no other managerial experience outside of Barca, and the setup would have to be created here and at present the talent pool is nowhere near as fruitful.

Either way we have to spend our money right, it's probably the biggest decision the owners will have to make as it will see us into the FFPR era with a certain philosophy.

Which board, pal, this one or Khaldoon and co? ;)

I do think January's spend will tell us all we need to know where the club currently stands re Mancini.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

It's getting to the big decision time for the board now, because it seems that at least Mourinho & Pep will be available in the summer.

They either have to decide that whatever happens this season they will back Mancini, give him within reason what he wants in the transfer market unlike last season and say that we believe for the next couple of years he can deliver what we want, as Mou and Pep won't be available after the summer for a couple of years most likely.

If they don't then if, as is likely, we go for one of the above then there are pitfalls to consider. Mou likes investment in his squad, likes having wingers, a grafter in midfield alongside a creator and doesn't favour bringing through youth, contrary to what we're trying to do and will want rid of players such as Balo and the likes of Maicon I suspect, however he is proven in England and in Europe and has a lot of experience, especially of winning trophies. Pep will bring through youth, will want a smaller squad(cuts the wage bill) and there may will be then a lack of investment in the squad and as shown by last summer when we don't spend the money properly we struggle. It may also see the end of the likes of Yaya and the transition on the pitch may need some patience and time that at present some members of the fanbase don't seem to want to give Mancini, and he has no other managerial experience outside of Barca, and the setup would have to be created here and at present the talent pool is nowhere near as fruitful.

Either way we have to spend our money right, it's probably the biggest decision the owners will have to make as it will see us into the FFPR era with a certain philosophy.

It's a good post, but you forget another part of the decision.

The club are obviously driving towards a model where it can "wash it's own face" financially in the long term. If they are looking at the three options which everyone believes, they also have to consider which of the three will drive top line revenue up. That's where things get interesting.

 

[Parksidecity]

we wont spend anything

 

[KPXBLN]

I do not believe for a moment that JavI Garcia was our #1 option and DDR a backup. Ludicrous. The timeline suggests exactly the opposite.

You're right. Garcia was lined up only as a back up if we sold De Jong. Once we sold him the deal was triggered.

 

[Anonymous]

It's getting to the big decision time for the board now, because it seems that at least Mourinho & Pep will be available in the summer.

They either have to decide that whatever happens this season they will back Mancini, give him within reason what he wants in the transfer market unlike last season and say that we believe for the next couple of years he can deliver what we want, as Mou and Pep won't be available after the summer for a couple of years most likely.

If they don't then if, as is likely, we go for one of the above then there are pitfalls to consider. Mou likes investment in his squad, likes having wingers, a grafter in midfield alongside a creator and doesn't favour bringing through youth, contrary to what we're trying to do and will want rid of players such as Balo and the likes of Maicon I suspect, however he is proven in England and in Europe and has a lot of experience, especially of winning trophies. Pep will bring through youth, will want a smaller squad(cuts the wage bill) and there may will be then a lack of investment in the squad and as shown by last summer when we don't spend the money properly we struggle. It may also see the end of the likes of Yaya and the transition on the pitch may need some patience and time that at present some members of the fanbase don't seem to want to give Mancini, and he has no other managerial experience outside of Barca, and the setup would have to be created here and at present the talent pool is nowhere near as fruitful.

Either way we have to spend our money right, it's probably the biggest decision the owners will have to make as it will see us into the FFPR era with a certain philosophy.

It's a good post, but you forget another part of the decision.

The club are obviously driving towards a model where it can "wash it's own face" financially in the long term. If they are looking at the three options which everyone believes, they also have to consider which of the three will drive top line revenue up. That's where things get interesting.

If we are looking to wash our own face long term then surely Mourinho is ouot of the running straight away?

(see, I can do it)

 

[bluelassie]

I do think January's spend will tell us all we need to know where the club currently stands re Mancini.[/quote]

Agree. In the past there's been what I call Marwood signings and Mancini signings. This Jan will be interested to see if we buy we buy Mancini signings or who maybe considered signings for a futher manager who our bosses know well and know who he would like to work with!

 

[Anonymous]

If we are looking to wash our own face long term then surely Mourinho is ouot of the running straight away?

(see, I can do it)

Why ? The team Mourinho built at Chelsea is only just being taken apart now. The team he's built at Madrid will be there for the most part for another four or five years.

Simply spending isn't the issue - it's having a manager who has a record of identifying talent, buying that talent, then getting the best out of the talent.