Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

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JoeMercer'sWay said:
It's getting to the big decision time for the board now, because it seems that at least Mourinho & Pep will be available in the summer.

They either have to decide that whatever happens this season they will back Mancini, give him within reason what he wants in the transfer market unlike last season and say that we believe for the next couple of years he can deliver what we want, as Mou and Pep won't be available after the summer for a couple of years most likely.m

If they don't then if, as is likely, we go for one of the above then there are pitfalls to consider. Mou likes investment in his squad, likes having wingers, a grafter in midfield alongside a creator and doesn't favour bringing through youth, contrary to what we're trying to do and will want rid of players such as Balo and the likes of Maicon I suspect, however he is proven in England and in Europe and has a lot of experience, especially of winning trophies. Pep will bring through youth, will want a smaller squad(cuts the wage bill) and there may will be then a lack of investment in the squad and as shown by last summer when we don't spend the money properly we struggle. It may also see the end of the likes of Yaya and the transition on the pitch may need some patience and time that at present some members of the fanbase don't seem to want to give Mancini, and he has no other managerial experience outside of Barca, and the setup would have to be created here and at present the talent pool is nowhere near as fruitful.

Either way we have to spend our money right, it's probably the biggest decision the owners will have to make as it will see us into the FFPR era with a certain philosophy.

Interesting post - and a good follow up from Didsbury Dave.

-- Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:01 pm --

OB1 said:
Didn't Jose just buy a house in Prestbury called Dunrowmin?

It was the one next door: Dunpokin.

-- Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:04 pm --

BillyShears said:
strongbowholic said:
If we are looking to wash our own face long term then surely Mourinho is ouot of the running straight away?

(see, I can do it)

Why ? The team Mourinho built at Chelsea is only just being taken apart now. The team he's built at Madrid will be there for the most part for another four or five years.

Simply spending isn't the issue - it's having a manager who has a record of identifying talent, buying that talent, then getting the best out of the talent.

Why? Presumably Mourinho wouldn't want an inherited squad and would want to spend big on his "own" choices. As usual we would lose heavily on the transfer values of the rejects.
 
Nils said:
It's an obvious line to take from the papers regarding Mancini's future following our exit from Europe. However, none of us know what the owners think, certainly not the likes of Ian Herbert etc, they just make it up. If we get to the end of the season and fail to win the title, then obviously the board has a very big decision to make. That's only natural with mourinho and Guardiola available. Either one would be great, the former guarantees success as far as you can in football, the latter would be more of a gamble but would fit with plans for the academy etc. Like all city fans though, if Mancini wins the title, he deserves to stay and have another shot in Europe with some quality signings brought in to strengthen the midfield and we can build from there. Let's just stuff united on Sunday and take it from there

The only slight issue with this is that Mourinho and Guardiola are unlikely to be short of offers, and if we're saying 'please wait until the end of the season, and even if you do, there's no guarantee of a job offer at the end of it', I could see them both telling us 'no thanks'.
 
hgblue said:
Nils said:
It's an obvious line to take from the papers regarding Mancini's future following our exit from Europe. However, none of us know what the owners think, certainly not the likes of Ian Herbert etc, they just make it up. If we get to the end of the season and fail to win the title, then obviously the board has a very big decision to make. That's only natural with mourinho and Guardiola available. Either one would be great, the former guarantees success as far as you can in football, the latter would be more of a gamble but would fit with plans for the academy etc. Like all city fans though, if Mancini wins the title, he deserves to stay and have another shot in Europe with some quality signings brought in to strengthen the midfield and we can build from there. Let's just stuff united on Sunday and take it from there

The only slight issue with this is that Mourinho and Guardiola are unlikely to be short of offers, and if we're saying 'please wait until the end of the season, and even if you do, there's no guarantee of a job offer at the end of it', I could see them both telling us 'no thanks'.

We've discussed this already and it's a really pertinent point. I don't think it's at all beyond the realms of possibility that we did this last year to one of them, too.

It's going to be a unique summer. It could well be that City, United, Chelsea and even Arsenal are in the market for managers, all chasing the two with the highest stock in Europe. This has never happened before.

ADUG could be left with a big 'take a shit or get off the pot' choice in the spring, especially with Roman trying to outmaneuvre them. And I've a hunch that the CL form may just be the nudge they need. Obviously if our league form doesn't improve the decision may be a whole lot easier.
 
Thing thats a pain in the arse about this place is the fact that you are seen as some kind of heathen if you dare question Mancini and his tacs, team selection etc. I am a big fan of the fella, but if you dont think our football is generally slow, static, unadventurous compared with (especially the beginning of) last season you arent paying enough attention.

The CL campaign was an absolute disaster and its hard to buy into the 'group of champions' bollocks. We all know that when we are on song we can stand toe to toe with any team, and we just didnt/couldnt....6 fucking times.

Questions are going to be asked and they probably should be, the realist in me says he will be seriously evaluated at the end of the current campaign and failure to bring home the Prem again may well cost him his job.

Ask yourself this question and try to answer honestly - how forgiving of Mancini are you because of the silverware he has brought home? If Sergio hadnt popped up with the miracle strike last season I think the face of this forum (after that CL exit) would be very different.

*dons tin hat cos I dared to be objective*
;)
 
TFC said:
Thing thats a pain in the arse about this place is the fact that you are seen as some kind of heathen if you dare question Mancini and his tacs, team selection etc.

Personally I don't think that's the case.
 
moomba said:
TFC said:
Thing thats a pain in the arse about this place is the fact that you are seen as some kind of heathen if you dare question Mancini and his tacs, team selection etc.

Personally I don't think that's the case.

Maybe the much maligned on here just go about getting their point across in the wrong way ;)
 
moomba said:
TFC said:
Thing thats a pain in the arse about this place is the fact that you are seen as some kind of heathen if you dare question Mancini and his tacs, team selection etc.

Personally I don't think that's the case.

Neither do I. As City fans, I expect us all to have a pop at the manager sometimes. I know I do. But that's not the same as constantly squealing fro his head. Now that is a pain in the arse.
 
Nils said:
It's an obvious line to take from the papers regarding Mancini's future following our exit from Europe. However, none of us know what the owners think, certainly not the likes of Ian Herbert etc, they just make it up. If we get to the end of the season and fail to win the title, then obviously the board has a very big decision to make. That's only natural with mourinho and Guardiola available. Either one would be great, the former guarantees success as far as you can in football, the latter would be more of a gamble but would fit with plans for the academy etc. Like all city fans though, if Mancini wins the title, he deserves to stay and have another shot in Europe with some quality signings brought in to strengthen the midfield and we can build from there. Let's just stuff united on Sunday and take it from there
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Jose's going back to Chelsea.

Pep's another matter.

However, unless this season goes horribly wrong, Bobby is our leader for many years to come. Forza City! Long live the Sheikh!
 
Mate of mine reckons he saw Alan Curbishley with an estate agent in Knutsford.
 
The cookie monster said:
chesterbells said:
Cajun4689 said:
Mancini is a good manager, period

How good?
Better than the rest?
3 trophies in 3 years

You throwing the mighty community shield in there too?! (mind you, I did enjoy that one, good day out).

Is 3 more than the other managers being discussed in this thread?
 
chesterbells said:
The cookie monster said:
chesterbells said:
How good?
Better than the rest?
3 trophies in 3 years

You throwing the mighty community shield in there too?! (mind you, I did enjoy that one, good day out).

Is 3 more than the other managers being discussed in this thread?
I am throwing the shield in there,why not :)
I think the thug from madrid has won 3 too
 
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