moomba said:hgblue said:I agree with you but the problem is that Mourinho is available now and won't be next season if Mancini fails again in the Champs League and Prem. In fact, not only will he not be available, but he'll be actively working against us for a direct rival. So do you stick with Mancini and hope this season was just a blip, or do you go all out to bring the best in the business to your club? Sorry Mancini lovers, but it's option 2 for me.
Personally don't think Mourinho is a good fit for the club. But putting names aside there is merit in choosing the best and who cares whether the incumbent deserves to get the chop or not.
Only problem with that is that I've seen over and over and over again clubs casting someone aside because the grass is greener on the other side. It rarely works, and as good as Mourinho is (or Guardiola, Klopp etc) there is no guarantee that a new manager will be a good fit at a new club. So unless things are going drastically wrong I don't think we need to rush into any changes.
moomba said:hgblue said:I agree with you but the problem is that Mourinho is available now and won't be next season if Mancini fails again in the Champs League and Prem. In fact, not only will he not be available, but he'll be actively working against us for a direct rival. So do you stick with Mancini and hope this season was just a blip, or do you go all out to bring the best in the business to your club? Sorry Mancini lovers, but it's option 2 for me.
Personally don't think Mourinho is a good fit for the club. But putting names aside there is merit in choosing the best and who cares whether the incumbent deserves to get the chop or not.
Only problem with that is that I've seen over and over and over again clubs casting someone aside because the grass is greener on the other side. It rarely works, and as good as Mourinho is (or Guardiola, Klopp etc) there is no guarantee that a new manager will be a good fit at a new club. So unless things are going drastically wrong I don't think we need to rush into any changes.
Blue Heaven said:Bobby has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is a bad fit for our club, and now that Soriano and Txiki are here, he's an even worse fit. Leave Bobby alone in a phone booth and within 15 seconds he'd be arguing with himself - this is how he was as a player, and how he is as a manager. It's simply part of his personality structure.
Yaya_Tony said:I didn't actually say that though, did I? I said that he left us with overpriced squad members, which he did. FFP loomed, and we have been dealing with it ever since. Mancini has never had a true "blank chequebook" with us. Won us the league and cup anyway though.Blue Heaven said:Yaya_Tony said:"500million" gives you that much self entitlement (sorry, "ambition")? Money doesn't buy success or happiness, sorry to break it to you.
Mancini/Mourinho/Inter isn't something I can be arsed dissecting at the moment.
We've needed to shift deadwood ever since Hughes left us with overwaged and underskilled employees. Once the leeches are gone forever we can spend worthwhile money on wages, still not over the top which is why the Spaniards renegotiated Kompany and Silva's contracts for example. I'm certainly not advocating austerity. The near total consensus on here is that we don't need or want upheaval, but tweaks. Some say a managerial tweak, many say let the manger do the tweaking.
We're at the start of a long road, why should we introduce yet another variable into a game which is already full of variables, from one 90 mins to the next? Keep a steady ship, and I believe we will reach the promised land. If we change now we may still get there (no guarantees either way), but we will have much more to do. As things stand, we are well on course.
Ahhh...it's the Weaselly Welshman's fault, is it? Haven't I heard that one before?
OB1 said:moomba said:hgblue said:I agree with you but the problem is that Mourinho is available now and won't be next season if Mancini fails again in the Champs League and Prem. In fact, not only will he not be available, but he'll be actively working against us for a direct rival. So do you stick with Mancini and hope this season was just a blip, or do you go all out to bring the best in the business to your club? Sorry Mancini lovers, but it's option 2 for me.
Personally don't think Mourinho is a good fit for the club. But putting names aside there is merit in choosing the best and who cares whether the incumbent deserves to get the chop or not.
Only problem with that is that I've seen over and over and over again clubs casting someone aside because the grass is greener on the other side. It rarely works, and as good as Mourinho is (or Guardiola, Klopp etc) there is no guarantee that a new manager will be a good fit at a new club. So unless things are going drastically wrong I don't think we need to rush into any changes.
Why would Mourinho be any worse fit for City than Mancini?
Mourinho replaced Mancini at Inter and that worked. Pellelgrini won nothing at Milan and Mourinho replaced him and did win things. Mourinho replaced Ranieri at Chelsea and won things. Lets see how we fare after Mourinho taps up at Chelsea again.
moomba said:Blue Heaven said:Bobby has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is a bad fit for our club, and now that Soriano and Txiki are here, he's an even worse fit. Leave Bobby alone in a phone booth and within 15 seconds he'd be arguing with himself - this is how he was as a player, and how he is as a manager. It's simply part of his personality structure.
What a load of ill informed, sensationalistic shite.
Hypothetically? It depends.greasedupdeafguy said:If we're doing Hypotheticals what happens if Mancini stays (which I think he will) he gets a 100 million to spend and we go once again in the group stages of the CL?Kazzydeyna said:Can I just ask the Colin Schindler's of this forum a genuine question please?
Let's hypothesize that we go all out and get Jose in the summer. And give him major money to spend.
If in two years time all he has achieved is a premier league title and an fa cup, after you've then sacked him for not being successful enough, who would you replace him with?
And where would the subsequent financial upheaval leave us in relation to ffp?
Blue Heaven said:moomba said:Blue Heaven said:Bobby has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is a bad fit for our club, and now that Soriano and Txiki are here, he's an even worse fit. Leave Bobby alone in a phone booth and within 15 seconds he'd be arguing with himself - this is how he was as a player, and how he is as a manager. It's simply part of his personality structure.
What a load of ill informed, sensationalistic shite.
The only 'load of ill informed, sensationalistic shite' you would recognize is what you see staring back at you in the mirror, mate.
moomba said:OB1 said:moomba said:Personally don't think Mourinho is a good fit for the club. But putting names aside there is merit in choosing the best and who cares whether the incumbent deserves to get the chop or not.
Only problem with that is that I've seen over and over and over again clubs casting someone aside because the grass is greener on the other side. It rarely works, and as good as Mourinho is (or Guardiola, Klopp etc) there is no guarantee that a new manager will be a good fit at a new club. So unless things are going drastically wrong I don't think we need to rush into any changes.
Why would Mourinho be any worse fit for City than Mancini?
Mourinho replaced Mancini at Inter and that worked. Pellelgrini won nothing at Milan and Mourinho replaced him and did win things. Mourinho replaced Ranieri at Chelsea and won things. Lets see how we fare after Mourinho taps up at Chelsea again.
Mourinho is a very good manager, one of the best. But I question his motives, and think that if he came here (or when he goes to Chelsea) it will all be about him and not the club.
I quite like Jose, but think a lot less of him after some of his antics at Madrid.
Blue Heaven said:moomba said:OB1 said:Why would Mourinho be any worse fit for City than Mancini?
Mourinho replaced Mancini at Inter and that worked. Pellelgrini won nothing at Milan and Mourinho replaced him and did win things. Mourinho replaced Ranieri at Chelsea and won things. Lets see how we fare after Mourinho taps up at Chelsea again.
Mourinho is a very good manager, one of the best. But I question his motives, and think that if he came here (or when he goes to Chelsea) it will all be about him and not the club.
I quite like Jose, but think a lot less of him after some of his antics at Madrid.
Funny, but I question your motives here in this thread - you're nothing but a transparent shill for Bobby. How much does he pay you?