Wigan Vs City Post Match Discussion thread

[danebanksheik]

Exactly, that's Wenger's flaw. That's what annoys me about him.

Same way card waving and trying to get a player sent off is Mancini's.

He's not trying to get him sent off. He's asking why it wasn't a red you plum. The ref had already issued the yellow ffs.

Sorry for hijacking this topic guys but just joined the forum so can't create a topic yet, just want to introduce myself as a Scottish guy in his mid 30's that had a Hearts season ticket for years but gave it up 3 years ago as Scottish fitba is shite. I put a 100 quid bet on at the start of the season with my man ure supporting mate that city would win the league. Didn't realise then how much I would get into following the club and have just purchased a blue membership with match priority so me and my son can get down to a match before we win the title!! Great team to watch,great manager and great fans, anyway be nice to me and hopefully meet for a pint one day!!! Cheers Snedds

Greetings Snedds
you'll get plenty of grief for jumping on the bandwagon but tough it out and the moaners will learn to accept you. enjoy the game when you get here.

 

[johnmc]

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WTF are you on about? The ball was going to bounce into Aguero's path, which is why the Wigan player handled the ball, because he knew the bounce had beaten him and he was the last man. Sometimes I despair, I really do.

It was on half way. If it was lescott handling when de santos would have been through i think you would argue it was a yellow.

So what?

Aguero would have been ten yards in front of him because of their respective body positions. Moreover, the very nature of the law means that it is open to interpretation, and if that's the case then surely the players involved in the incident are equally part of the referee's interpretation of that law and any particular incident where the law needs to be applied?

The players involved can't be considered because that's asking a ref to know.the attributes to every player. Say we signed someone from south.America no ref knew. How does he interpret that?

 

[foreverablue18]

Are some fans just unable to be pleased? That was exactly the kind of performance we needed tonight.

Think about the circumstances.. We came in on a bad run of form. We're playing an away game against a team fighting for survival, who are finally playing well again. It's a freezing cold night, making it very difficult to play explosive football, and all of our imposing, strong players are injured (Kompany, Yaya, Balotelli, Richards) except Dzeko.

Now think about what happened.. We completely dominated the first half. Looked dangerous from the beginning and got an early goal. We then played an intelligent, controlled game until Wigan pushed harder in the second half and the game opened up. This is where we needed to bury the game and the one dent on the performance is that we failed to score here. Because of that Wigan were able to throw everything at us, which made the game seem closer than it was in the end.

But overall everyone did their job today. Hart stepped up when we needed him. The whole backline was solid and in position. Barry and Milner had a misplaced pass or 2, but worked extremely hard and kept the midfield in check. Silva and Nasri did a great job of controlling the game and always looked capable of creating danger. Dzeko held the ball up brilliantly and took his chance. Aguero made great runs and crafted some good chances.

What more can we expect from a freezing cold away game?

Thank f*ck at least one person saw it like I did! The only reason people aren't coming on here drooling like idiots over how great we were is that we missed 3-4 gilt edged chances (with half chances on top of that, too).

Very well put tbh! Don't think it was a complete victory but the 3 points were all that mattered!

 

[DTeacher]

Re: Re: Re: Wigan Vs City Post Match Discussion thread

You have to forget its aguerro. I agree its a goal scoring chance for aguerro but thats not the rules.

Eh?

Ok, as you wish.

He's the last man - he is preventing a goalscoring opportunity for XYZ.

Mr XYZ has a CLEAR run on goal with only the goalkeeper to beat. Pretty sure what the rules are in those circumstances...

By the way, we shouldn't even be discussing this, as he should have been booked for the nasty foul on Nasri, which would have meant he would have walked for two yellows anyway...

I agree he should have been booked already. But can you say you are confident de jong would have scored from that position.

Hi John,

Sorry, the site crashed on me and only just got back on.

Yes, I saw your replies on this on previous pages, so I guess we'll leave it there.

Thanks.

 

[Snedds76]

He's not trying to get him sent off. He's asking why it wasn't a red you plum. The ref had already issued the yellow ffs.

Sorry for hijacking this topic guys but just joined the forum so can't create a topic yet, just want to introduce myself as a Scottish guy in his mid 30's that had a Hearts season ticket for years but gave it up 3 years ago as Scottish fitba is shite. I put a 100 quid bet on at the start of the season with my man ure supporting mate that city would win the league. Didn't realise then how much I would get into following the club and have just purchased a blue membership with match priority so me and my son can get down to a match before we win the title!! Great team to watch,great manager and great fans, anyway be nice to me and hopefully meet for a pint one day!!! Cheers Snedds

Greetings Snedds
you'll get plenty of grief for jumping on the bandwagon but tough it out and the moaners will learn to accept you. enjoy the game when you get here.

Cheers for the reply mate,yip I'm guessing it'll be like most other forums but us scots are thick skinned!!!

 

[Anonymous]

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It was on half way. If it was lescott handling when de santos would have been through i think you would argue it was a yellow.

So what?

Aguero would have been ten yards in front of him because of their respective body positions. Moreover, the very nature of the law means that it is open to interpretation, and if that's the case then surely the players involved in the incident are equally part of the referee's interpretation of that law and any particular incident where the law needs to be applied?

The players involved can't be considered because that's asking a ref to know.the attributes to every player. Say we signed someone from south.America no ref knew. How does he interpret that?

barry would have got himself into a goal scoring opportunity from there.

 

[johnmc]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Wigan Vs City Post Match Discussion thread

Eh?

Ok, as you wish.

He's the last man - he is preventing a goalscoring opportunity for XYZ.

Mr XYZ has a CLEAR run on goal with only the goalkeeper to beat. Pretty sure what the rules are in those circumstances...

By the way, we shouldn't even be discussing this, as he should have been booked for the nasty foul on Nasri, which would have meant he would have walked for two yellows anyway...

I agree he should have been booked already. But can you say you are confident de jong would have scored from that position.

Hi John,

Sorry, the site crashed on me and only just got back on.

Yes, I saw your replies on this on previous pages, so I guess we'll leave it there.

Thanks.

No worries. In all honesty i can see both sides. The ref will always give a yellow in that situation because of the distance i think.

 

[Deleted member 14625]

Champions win ugly.

We win ugly.

Therefore we are...ugly? ;-)

Oi, speak for yourself!

Hang on............




Yeah, I've just looked in the mirror and I'm an ugly futher mucker n'all!

 

[TCIB]

So whats the meltdown/rage/troll ban count for this evening then :)

Good match, we could have been a bit more clinical but the win was most important.

 

[moomba]

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I understand where your coming from. But what if ref doesn't know the player involved. Refs might not know the speed and poise of every player. Say it was de Jong would you still say red.

Yes. Because the player's ability to score is irrelevant. He denied us the chance of scoring. That's all that's needed for a red card to be shown.

A definite goal scoring opportunity is a red card. A probable goal scoring opportunity is a yellow card. Scott Parker was brought down by Garry Cahill and it was rescinded because they said with 50yards to go its only a probable GSO. I pretty much agree.

It was also a totally different area of the pitch, with players much more likely to be able to get back and cover. And he was fouled after busting a gut for 30 seconds trying to win the ball so it was doubtful it was a clear goalscoring opportunity.

Two totally different events.