I think the people who need to grow up and get real on here are the JCL glory hunters who seem to think that all football is about is success at any cost, money, trophies and seeing your favourite superstar player in adverts.
Ive been following city for 25 years and for me personally the most exciting times was seeing us go all the way down to the 3rd division and back up again.
Anyone who thinks we'll do anything at all in the chumps league next season IF we do get 4th is completely deluded anyway.