Will they fire Mancini?

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Yeah, sorry lads. Fuck the carling cup. We will win the fa cup. Oh wait, well fuck that one, europes where it matters. Oooops, must be our inexperience. Europa is the one. Oh wait...we lost to the dog and duck from Lithuania. I blame the press for that one, the rag twats. And Didsbury Dave of course, the biased shit.


Forza saint bob. Best manager since Joe mercer. Give him a ten year contract. Trust in the Jedi master, fuck the carling cup, leave that to clueless Kenny and his men. At least our euro coefficient will be better . At least we've got Bobby, who's hair coefficient will always surpass Kenny the ****'s.

Even I didn't realise you were quite this bitter.

I believe this character is very closely based on him:

 

[welsh_andy]

simple answer, 5 year plan. so no and wish ppl stop moaning about RM, we have come a long way

 

[Red_fan]

It is a bit odd that every time City lose a game or have a poor result that Mancini comes out and say that he didn't prepare properly because he underestimated the opposition.

To me, he is clearly lying about that and other things have gone wrong, but it's the worst possible thing that he could say from his point of view, because it paints him in a very bad light. I know he's trying to take the pressure of the players, but it doesn't even work because they get a fair bit of bashing from all quarters every time they have a poor result anyway. If he wants to take the pressure off his players that badly he should take a leaf out of Mourinho's book or Fergies's (blame the officials or/and give huge praise to the opposition)

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

It's heartening to realise that its only a minuscule minority who have a hatred of Mancini that is greater than their love for City.

Wrong.
It's love for our club that creates criticisms of mancini.

Wrong? Their hatred can't be masked as crticism, it surpasses criticism and appears to be all consuming.

 

[Rammy Blue]

It is a bit odd that every time City lose a game or have a poor result that Mancini comes out and say that he didn't prepare properly because he underestimated the opposition.

To me, he is clearly lying about that and other things have gone wrong, but it's the worst possible thing that he could say from his point of view, because it paints him in a very bad light. I know he's trying to take the pressure of the players, but it doesn't even work because they get a fair bit of bashing from all quarters every time they have a poor result anyway. If he wants to take the pressure off his players that badly he should take a leaf out of Mourinho's book or Fergies's (blame the officials or/and give huge praise to the opposition)

Good post, imo.

 

[Anonymous]

No talks yet out of Manchester City on new deal for Roberto Mancini
Duncan Castles
Mar 17, 2012

Manchester City remain relaxed about the contract situation of Roberto Mancini and are not considering replacing him with Jose Mourinho, even if the Italian manager fails to win a trophy this season.

City exited the Europa League in midweek leaving the pursuit of Manchester United for the Premier League this season's sole chance of silverware.

The club considers Mancini one of the top five managers in world football and see no value in ending a relationship they believe will deliver major titles in future campaigns, if not this one.

The executive team has been impressed by Mancini's readiness to take blame upon himself for recent failures, although their long-term commitment to the manager will be tested by a willingness to renew a contract that expires next year.

To date there have been no formal talks about an extension.

City find themselves in a position where they may face a resurgent Chelsea on Wednesday night four points adrift of United and there has been a degree of resistance to Mancini's management amongst the squad.

Some players complain that the Italian remains a distant figure, his training sessions are not enjoyable, and that the team's tactics do not properly exploit the talent available to him.

An aspect of Patrick Vieira's role as football development executive has been to provide a conduit between squad and manager.

Though his default position is to resist changing management, City owner Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed has demonstrated his readiness to act when judged necessary.

Less than two weeks ago Al Jazira, the UAE Pro League club he is chairman of, dismissed Franky Vercauteren as coach seven months after appointing the Belgian because of a breakdown in the relationship with players.

Mourinho is open to offers from Premier League clubs having taken the decision to leave Real Madrid this summer.

Yet the City hierarchy have concerns over the long-term legacy he would offer the club and the cost of employing a coach who earns over €10 million (Dh 48.39m) a year after tax in Spain.

Mourinho is seriously considering an approach from Tottenham Hotspur.

Potentially more appealing to City, however, is Pep Guardiola's less confrontational style of management.

The Barcelona coach has yet to decide on extending his contract at Camp Nou into a fifth season, but is expected to take a year's sabbatical from football even if he decides against it.

That's a pretty depressing and mealy mouthed vote of confidence for Roberto - if we accept that the National is ADUG's mouthpiece for leaking information. I find it strange a few on the forum think that that means Mancini definitely staying as for me it reads as quite the opposite. Starts off with "no plans to replace him" and then goes on to talk about how Sheikh Mansour just fired the manager of his UAE club due to a "breakdown in the relationship with players" etc.

It won't do them any favours if they keep Mancini this summer but don't give him a new contract and take another watching brief. It'll undermine the manager to the squad which isn't really how we want to go into a new season. If he stays then he deserves a new contract as soon as the season ends.

 

[Soulboy]

No talks yet out of Manchester City on new deal for Roberto Mancini
Duncan Castles
Mar 17, 2012

Manchester City remain relaxed about the contract situation of Roberto Mancini and are not considering replacing him with Jose Mourinho, even if the Italian manager fails to win a trophy this season.

City exited the Europa League in midweek leaving the pursuit of Manchester United for the Premier League this season's sole chance of silverware.

The club considers Mancini one of the top five managers in world football and see no value in ending a relationship they believe will deliver major titles in future campaigns, if not this one.

The executive team has been impressed by Mancini's readiness to take blame upon himself for recent failures, although their long-term commitment to the manager will be tested by a willingness to renew a contract that expires next year.

To date there have been no formal talks about an extension.

City find themselves in a position where they may face a resurgent Chelsea on Wednesday night four points adrift of United and there has been a degree of resistance to Mancini's management amongst the squad.

Some players complain that the Italian remains a distant figure, his training sessions are not enjoyable, and that the team's tactics do not properly exploit the talent available to him.

An aspect of Patrick Vieira's role as football development executive has been to provide a conduit between squad and manager.

Though his default position is to resist changing management, City owner Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed has demonstrated his readiness to act when judged necessary.

Less than two weeks ago Al Jazira, the UAE Pro League club he is chairman of, dismissed Franky Vercauteren as coach seven months after appointing the Belgian because of a breakdown in the relationship with players.

Mourinho is open to offers from Premier League clubs having taken the decision to leave Real Madrid this summer.

Yet the City hierarchy have concerns over the long-term legacy he would offer the club and the cost of employing a coach who earns over €10 million (Dh 48.39m) a year after tax in Spain.

Mourinho is seriously considering an approach from Tottenham Hotspur.

Potentially more appealing to City, however, is Pep Guardiola's less confrontational style of management.

The Barcelona coach has yet to decide on extending his contract at Camp Nou into a fifth season, but is expected to take a year's sabbatical from football even if he decides against it.

That's a pretty depressing and mealy mouthed vote of confidence for Roberto - if we accept that the National is ADUG's mouthpiece for leaking information. I find it strange a few on the forum think that that means Mancini definitely staying as for me it reads as quite the opposite. Starts off with "no plans to replace him" and then goes on to talk about how Sheikh Mansour just fired the manager of his UAE club due to a "breakdown in the relationship with players" etc.

It won't do them any favours if they keep Mancini this summer but don't give him a new contract and take another watching brief. It'll undermine the manager to the squad which isn't really how we want to go into a new season. If he stays then he deserves a new contract as soon as the season ends.[/quote]













I agree with that. With a manager, you either back him or sack him. The worst thing you can do is have uncertainty about his position... that way leads to disaster!

My view that he was now more likely to stay was based on Castles' comment that City weren't looking at Mourinho as a replacement.

And if that is the case, I'm really struggling to think of a realistic alternative.

Hopefully, we are now past the days when we'd sack a manager before even giving any thought to a replacement. Surely we're not going to go down that road again?

And who is "better" than Mancini, other than maybe Mourinho? That's the problem I have about replacing our manager.

I have a sneaky feeling this is just a warning shot across the bows to the manager, clearly letting him know that he needs to win the league if he wants to be guaranteed a new contract.

Anyone else is a gamble of AVB proportions!

So a 12-month rolling contract may be the best compromise...

 

[Anonymous]

I have a sneaky feeling this is just a warning shot across the bows to the manager, clearly letting him know that he needs to win the league if he wants to be guaranteed a new contract.

Anyone else is a gamble of AVB proportions!

So a 12-month rolling contract may be the best compromise...

Disagree about a 12 month rolling contract. Only when you have all powerful company men like Fergie, or Pep does that work. For us it'd create too much uncertainty.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I have a sneaky feeling this is just a warning shot across the bows to the manager, clearly letting him know that he needs to win the league if he wants to be guaranteed a new contract.

Anyone else is a gamble of AVB proportions!

So a 12-month rolling contract may be the best compromise...

Disagree about a 12 month rolling contract. Only when you have all powerful company men like Fergie, or Pep does that work. For us it'd create too much uncertainty.

I agree Billy. I would like, irrespective of the outcome of this season - bar a ten game losing streak, I guess - for the club to make an announcement as soon as the season is over.

It would send the right signal out about stability within the club and give Mancini the powerbase to finish the job off next season, assuming we don't win it this term.

It is astonishing that given the discernible improvement since last season both in terms of points garnered and the quality of our play, that people are seriously considering sacking Mancini. I am, by nature, a pragmatic person - as I believe you are too -and that means if the time and circumstances are right then Roberto should go: no manager is indispensable - but we are continuing to progress as a club and as a team and as long as that remains the case there is far more to be lost than gained by changing managers.

 

[Anonymous]

It is astonishing that given the discernible improvement since last season both in terms of points garnered and the quality of our play, that people are seriously considering sacking Mancini. I am, by nature, a pragmatic person - as I believe you are too -and that means if the time and circumstances are right then Roberto should go: no manager is indispensable - but we are continuing to progress as a club and as a team and as long as that remains the case there is far more to be lost than gained by changing managers.

No need to be astonished. The owners have had every opportunity to give Mancini a new contract. I half expected him to be given one last summer after the FA Cup win but he didn't get one. Again this season, at no point during our 5 months at the top of the league this season was there any sign from the club that they intend to discuss a new contract with Roberto until the summer. Of course from the outside we have no idea of what kind of conversations he's having with Khaldoun, but it doesn't change the fact that a new contract is the simplest and most efficient way to kill all speculation dead.

Don't you think it'd give everyone a whole boost for example, if Mancini signed a new contract on Monday ?