Will you attend City games if we join a European Super League?

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Got to laugh at all the pundits going mental, such as superfan Neville. Presumably they are all that outraged that none of them would commentate on any of these games should it go ahead?

I think we should put aside this banter. He’s made some good points, which most fans will agree with

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

I think we should put aside this banter. He’s made some good points, which most fans will agree with

But if he is that principled will he resign should Sky get involved?

 

[WesthoughtonJohn]

Let me see:
No
No
And NO
This is an issue that requires us to really come together as supporters of the game.

Clubs are planning a social media blackout against racism - rightly so.
As supporters we have to come together and boycott a weekend of fixtures if this is for real

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

S


Probably because the harsh reality is we were fighting for ourselves to enter the cartel, not some altruistic reason to smash the cartel, as we were already, by that stage, part of it.

People always said on this thread why dont we challenge FFP through the courts, but the club knew it was FFP which protects our position going forward. Were one of the haves.

that in itself is wrong. This is a pr disaster for the club and makes them look so bad.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

But if he is that principled will he resign should Sky get involved?

no idea. Surely you agree with what he said though.

 

[5 Hit Gibbon]

But if he is that principled will he resign should Sky get involved?

Will he fuck.

Rat by name, rat by nature.

 

[Coatigan]

You are right. Yet. But if it does?

I am not disagreeing in the slightest. Nothing about it sits well with me.

But, as far as I can see, it is still just speculation, amplified by repetition.

 

[Rose9320]

This is a PR disaster for the club. It won't have any much, if any, support from fans and ultimately, without the fans it won't work.

The proposals ignore the essentially most exciting part of football: promotion, relegation and winning trophies. An invitation only league with no relegation goes against every single tenet of why league football is exciting. It's astonishing that they've not considered this. It shows that this isn't about sporting excellence, it's about money. It's about making more money than they currently can do and making so much money that it's almost impossible for "old PL" players to turn down.

This is bringing to a head the process which started with the PL. Prior to the PL, most clubs were run by well-meaning local men. Clubs that were once rooted and anchored in their local towns and cities became commodities that could be bought, sold and traded across the world. We've seen it perfectly how Swales, a local lad done well, has ended up being replaced by a disgraced ex-PM of Thailand and eventually by the Sheikh.

After the PL, the influx of money started to distort the game and when teams found they could raise significant amounts of money on the markets. I agree with Gary Neville that money in sport isn't a bad thing as such, but it's getting to be too much of a part of it. Let's be absolutely honest, it's absolutely impossible for anyone to break into the top 4 and stay there without a vast amount of money. It's been designed this way. Once you're in the CL every year, the money you get is vast and it allows you to effectively take a "free player" from outside the top 4.

Of course, the Sheikh has run the club immaculately and his investment has not only benefitted City fans but everyone in Manchester who's seen east Manchester regenerated. However, it also raises an important point: is a football club just the same as a company or is it something different - a cultural artefact.

I think we have lost sight of the fact that football clubs are not businesses. They are cultural artefacts handed down to us to treasure and pass on to our descendants.

Quite simply, the proposals are the fact that the people who own the clubs want even more money. They want to grab not just a national market but a European or international market. They are taking Manchester City out of Manchester and making it almost a franchise that is Manchester in name only. This is the same for United and Liverpool etc as well. Football clubs are not, primarily businesses, they are as important to countries as cathedrals, civic buildings, music, the NHS and BBC etc. They are based in the working people of this country. It's about time we realised this and I hope these dreadful proposals help to make people think about what a football club is.

I sincerely hope the club has a long, hard think about how the proposals have been received. I hope they realise it's a mistake.

Absolutely right. Sad to see the passion and excitement go for so many loyal fans

 

[bert38]

This will prob end in a compromise with a reorganisation of champs LG with seeded teams (inc the dirty dozen).

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Will he fuck.

Rat by name, rat by nature.

what has that got to do with anything/ what’s going on. He’s making perfectly legitimate points. No wonder fans in this country can’t come together. It’s all about banter and petty rivalry.