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Willy has to play in the Final
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To those saying Pellers and his Willy are gone in the summer so what affect will it have if he's dropped for the final, there's still almost a third of the season to go, a THIRD.
What you mean his performances might become rubbish!:) It's a major cup final and our only realistic chance of silverware so it shouldn't even be a debate you pick your best team.
What you mean his performances might become rubbish!:) It's a major cup final and our only realistic chance of silverware so it shouldn't even be a debate you pick your best team.
It could have a detrimental effect on squad harmony.
Matty
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Hart is clearly the best keeper at the club, there's no debating that. The issue here is that Caballero has been the domestic cup keeper since he arrived at City, playing every single domestic cup game, bar none. So, Pellegrini has established a clear precedent here, he's anointed Caballero as the keeper he plays in domestic cup matches. To drop him now for the Final would either indicate that Pellegrini wasn't a man of his word, which I don't see being the case, or else that he was seriously concerned about Caballero's ability. I just don't see Pellegrini changing his approach to domestic games and dropping Caballero. He was pretty terrible against Chelsea, and he's made several mistakes in previous games, but Pellegrini seems to trust him. He worked with him at Malaga previously, and now at City, so I don't think a poor display against Chelsea will have lead Pellegrini to some epiphany whereby he's doubting Caballero's ability to perform in the Cup Final.
As City fans we want Hart to play, he's the better keeper and, as such, he gives us the better chance of lifting the trophy. Pellegrini has his plans however and I don't see him being persuaded to replace the keeper for this game. Lets just hope Caballero doesn't have much to do against Liverpool, because if he does make a mistake that ends up costing us people will crucify Pellegrini for sticking with him.
As City fans we want Hart to play, he's the better keeper and, as such, he gives us the better chance of lifting the trophy. Pellegrini has his plans however and I don't see him being persuaded to replace the keeper for this game. Lets just hope Caballero doesn't have much to do against Liverpool, because if he does make a mistake that ends up costing us people will crucify Pellegrini for sticking with him.
On the one hand he won't get any better by not playing, on the other, he could get a lot worse. Looked nervous from the off on Sunday and if he does drop him for the final and we end up needing him later in the season that will not do a lot for his confidence.
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Willy just does not inspire one with confidence which is essential for a goalkeeper really. He can pull off the odd super reaction save as in first half last Sunday but makes far too many basic errors on a consistent basis. Also while Joe can and does make mistakes he sometimes wins matches with a string of great saves something Willy is unlikely to do. Given that we are now underdogs for the League and not likely to get any further than the Semi Final of the CL Sunday represents our best chance of winning a trophy this season and with Joe in Goal our chances of victory are that much better. Common sense dictates he should start and that decision should be taken regardless of any real or supposed agreement that may exist. Finally, we will need more than Joe in goal to win on Sunday unless we turn up with a big performance we won't beat the Dippers.The logical reason could be called consistency. Domestic cup keeper -> cup final -> Cab.
We all don't know about the agreement between Pellers and the 2 keepers, don't we? Do you?
The free kick leading to the 4th goal was his mistake, right.
But have a look again at Cahill's shot. It was not straight but deflected by Fernando. That goal could have been avoided by Zab or Fern. If you ever have been in a football goal you'd know Cab didn't have a chance from that distance.
I don't mind who will be our keeper at Wembley. But I do mind the massive Cab bashing that is going on here.
Really poor.
I expect Pellers won't support this bashing and Cab will play the final.
We should go to penalties and Cab should save the silverware for City. That's what I'd like.
So don't delete this thread...
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If we need him later in the season we are in deep shitOn the one hand he won't get any better by not playing, on the other, he could get a lot worse. Looked nervous from the off on Sunday and if he does drop him for the final and we end up needing him later in the season that will not do a lot for his confidence.
Harsh, but fair.If we need him later in the season we are in deep shit
Only way Willy doesn't play is if Pellegrini thinks he's rattled and will struggle again.Hart is clearly the best keeper at the club, there's no debating that. The issue here is that Caballero has been the domestic cup keeper since he arrived at City, playing every single domestic cup game, bar none. So, Pellegrini has established a clear precedent here, he's anointed Caballero as the keeper he plays in domestic cup matches. To drop him now for the Final would either indicate that Pellegrini wasn't a man of his word, which I don't see being the case, or else that he was seriously concerned about Caballero's ability. I just don't see Pellegrini changing his approach to domestic games and dropping Caballero. He was pretty terrible against Chelsea, and he's made several mistakes in previous games, but Pellegrini seems to trust him. He worked with him at Malaga previously, and now at City, so I don't think a poor display against Chelsea will have lead Pellegrini to some epiphany whereby he's doubting Caballero's ability to perform in the Cup Final.
As City fans we want Hart to play, he's the better keeper and, as such, he gives us the better chance of lifting the trophy. Pellegrini has his plans however and I don't see him being persuaded to replace the keeper for this game. Lets just hope Caballero doesn't have much to do against Liverpool, because if he does make a mistake that ends up costing us people will crucify Pellegrini for sticking with him.
Barcelona share their goalkeeping duties. Some will say their keepers are better, but Willy was when he was playing in La Liga their top rated keeper
Matty
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Only way Willy doesn't play is if Pellegrini thinks he's rattled and will struggle again.
Barcelona share their goalkeeping duties. Some will say their keepers are better, but Willy was when he was playing in La Liga their top rated keeper
I think Hart is better than either of Barca's keepers, but Caballero is a distant fourth for me when it comes to ability, both Bravo and ter Stegen are better. Plus Barca's keeper doesn't really have to DO a great deal half the time! Victor Valdes was their regular number one for 11 seasons, making over 500 appearances, yet it took him 7 of those seasons to win an International cap, and he's only got 20 of those to date. So, number one keeper at possibly the best club side in the world, but regularly outside the top 3 Spanish keepers as far as their national side is concerned.
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