In that brief moment, they could have only seen it once and from one angle. Players faces told the story, even the keeper.That is a huge issue for me,
Managers watching replays in the dugout and then challenging the officials.
How the fuck is that allowed.
Oh, I'll play. Mick Doyle in FA cup replay v Blackpool...Dave Watson v Ipswich 1977 , Mick McCarthy v rags 1986 , Vinny K v rags 2012 and Johnny Stones v wolves yesterday , all great headers from great 8defenders
In that brief moment, they could have only seen it once and from one angle. Players faces told the story, even the keeper.
You certainly can be offside and not interfering with play. If the left winger is offside and doesn't touch the ball or attempt to and his centre forward scores it's a goal.
The BBC football webpages, apart from the list of scores 'n scorers, contains little truth but shedloads of waffle that is 'believable'!That's the critical point for me. There's so much talk about the decision, the BBC even have a video which asks if the Wolves players took too long to contest the decision.
For 30 seconds they're largely on the floor or with heads in hands because they've conceded. The keeper hasn't jumped up and started kicking off about Bernardo blocking him or being in his eyeline. When Arsenal scored their first against us, there was an immediate reaction because of Walker being called out of position. When they scored from the corner we protested because of the pushing and obstructing that had occurred.
The Wolves players weren't bothered, because they didn't have an issue. When they saw the flag raised, that's where they got excited. That's what O'Neil saw and got all excited about as well. VAR obviously reviewed it and felt the ref should have a look, and the ref didn't believe Bernardo was affecting play. And he wasn't. I reckon if they showed every corner or set piece from the weekend you'd see far worse than that incident in the majority. The only reason it "stands out" is because it was initially ruled out for offside - the linesman just seeing Bernardo as offside with no context of where he was in relation to the keeper, and because it is one player with the keeper. Usually there are about 3 around the keeper so it's harder to identify what is going on.
If you're not interfering (as defined in law 11) you're not offside. It is not an offence just to be in an offside position. You can't be offside direct from a corner but Bernie was in an offside position once the ball from Phil's corner was further out from the goal line than Bernie was.
Yes. Bizarrely at the pub next to the ground. The leaping Wolf, a real home pub!Did you manage to get a beer before the game
no he's offside as soon as Stones heads it.I'm not sure that's true is it? He is only in an offside position once the ball is touched by a City player, not purely due to the swing of the ball going behind him? he is in a state awaiting to be called. Schrodingers Bernie.
(think of a player unmarked on the back post at a corner, receiving a big loopy in-swinging corner that goes further out from the goal line than him and back onto his head - you would never ever see that called offside, because offside is determined at the moment of contact with the ball by your teammate, not by the flight of the ball itself).