Wolves (A) | PL | Post-Match Thread

Not read all his comments, but tbf to O'Neil, he isn't claiming that it's offside, he just saying it's unfair that Wolves don't get their fair share of wrong decisions. Who the feck does he think he is? Arsenal or something?
 
jollylescott said:
Obviously very happy with the win, but the ‘decision’ by Attwell to ask the ref to go to the monitor was an absolute farce.

The media have jumped on it now and collectively decided that Bernie (all 5 foot four of him and 9 stone dripping wet) backing in to the keeper briefly before the corner came curling in somehow impeded the keeper.

What a joke!!!

I don’t know how many times this season I’ve seen Eddie surrounded by players who are not the slightest bit interested in the ball (yes you Arsenal) and whose sole purpose is to shove and block Eddie from getting to the ball from a corner. Is any of that referred to VAR? Of course not.

Atwell has to be one of the biggest cheats going around and that referral to ask the ref to the monitor was just plain disgusting.

Luckily for us the ref overruled Atwell. Otherwise it would have been the biggest injustice of the season.
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The people that should be most worried about this is the tarquins
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Amazing how often the commentators watching the game don't seem to be aware of these 'on-field decisions' and then after the game it turns out that whatever makes the VAR team look the most competent is shared as if it was fact. Did anyone else see an offside flag or offside decision from the referee? Everything I saw suggested the ref gave it and was told to go to the monitor by VAR who presumably thought there was a reason to disallow it.
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I watched MOTD 2 last night and focused on the linesman for the 30 seconds count they did to show how long it took for someone from Wolves to react and I struggled to see any raising of a flag or indeed the referee ruling out the goal.
It makes sense that he overturned a decision as he made the tv sign before pointing to the centre spot but I struggled to see any evidence that the goal had been disallowed before he went across to the screen.
 
For everyone berating Attwell or VAR trying to fuck us over.

It was the on field team that tried to fuck us over.

VAR advised the ref to re visit the decision.

The VAR team worked in our favour.
 

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SWP COME HOME!! said:
I watched MOTD 2 last night and focused on the linesman for the 30 seconds count they did to show how long it took for someone from Wolves to react and I struggled to see any raising of a flag or indeed the referee ruling out the goal.
It makes sense that he overturned a decision as he made the tv sign before pointing to the centre spot but I struggled to see any evidence that the goal had been disallowed before he went across to the screen.
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One of the linesmen was a sub....was it this one on the 'offside' does anyone know?

That being said he was supposed to be the 4th official so it shouldn't matter really. I just wonder and I'm grasping here that his head was in 4th official mode and he said over the radio he thought it was off rather than actually doing what he should be doing and raising his flag.

Earlier in the game he gave a Wolves player offside (when he was) very quickly as soon as I think Dias put his hand up....nerves/not upto standard/not upto date with the rules and PiGMOL advice in how to deal with situations?
 
SWP COME HOME!! said:
I watched MOTD 2 last night and focused on the linesman for the 30 seconds count they did to show how long it took for someone from Wolves to react and I struggled to see any raising of a flag or indeed the referee ruling out the goal.
It makes sense that he overturned a decision as he made the tv sign before pointing to the centre spot but I struggled to see any evidence that the goal had been disallowed before he went across to the screen.
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The ref raised his hand after 20 or 30 seconds after initially awarding the goal. He stood around for a few seconds while the Wolves fans celebrated, then went to the monitor, turned round and pissed on their chips. Cue pandemonium in the away section.
 
I think the only debating point around our winning goal was the role of Bernie on the keeper upto and during the delivery, the question of line of sight was completely dismissed (correctly) as he was well out of the way.

I personally didn't see much beyond very normal keeper/player tussling. Actually the video on pg 96 has very good footage of it.

The first image is just after Foden takes the corner, Bernie is rooted to the spot and maybe, if i'm being controversial, deliberately stopping the keeper from coming out. In the footage you can see the keeper straining forwards and Silva just digging in; NO GOAL!

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Then immediately the keeper gives him a shove, the usual "i'm the keeper, move" sort of shove they do all the time; PENALTY!

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i think my point is, when watched in real-time, Bernie's 'block' and the Keeper's 'shove' are all part of the same fluid motion, neither is what people would claim them to be. It's all part of corner taking, but it's accentuated because a) there was a goal, and a winning one at that and b) the 2 players are completely isolated from the pack, which is a bit unusual too.

It's a goal, all day, for me.
 
Gary O'Neil can frankly "do one" as they say...perhaps if his boring team actually made more of an effort to win that game late on yesterday then he wouldn't need to whinge. Yes, revolutionary idea I know, but it's amazing how the teams trying to gamble and win matches late on tend to score more than teams sticking 11 behind the ball for the last 15 minutes.
 
BlueMonkey79 said:
Attwell actually advised the ref to go the monitor to GIVE the goal.

The on pitch decision was offside. No goal!!
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I’m not convinced. The Wolves players were all getting ready to take the kick off before VAR got involved. Any pictures of a raised flag by the linesman?
 
Jonas.shaffer said:
Also, I didn't notice this live, but did anyone else see the sideline referee seemingly walk right between Pep trying to shake the Wolves' manager's hand? My screengrab really doesn't do justice to how rude it was, to put it nicely.
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I saw that. Think it might have been ground staff myself as he went onto the pitch afterwards. I might be wrong though.
 
BlueMonkey79 said:
For everyone berating Attwell or VAR trying to fuck us over.

It was the on field team that tried to fuck us over.

VAR advised the ref to re visit the decision.

The VAR team worked in our favour.
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I think the confusion has arisen because the on field decision was missed by so many. I'm sure the Sky commentators were making out the review was to disallow the goal as well which added to the confusion. Correct decision in the end though.
 
GSW Blue said:
I’m not convinced. The Wolves players were all getting ready to take the kick off before VAR got involved. Any pictures of a raised flag by the linesman?
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It was as he said. The linesman gave offside. I'd like to know how long it took him to raise his flag.
 
Every pundit, except that Sky lot, have said it was a goal. The Sky lot appear to have either been 'briefed' or came to the same conclusion as each other straight away.
 
East Level 2 said:
The ref raised his hand after 20 or 30 seconds after initially awarding the goal. He stood around for a few seconds while the Wolves fans celebrated, then went to the monitor, turned round and pissed on their chips. Cue pandemonium in the away section.
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Makes sense that the Wolves fans were cheering at something but I still haven’t seen the referee raising his arm or any footage of the goal being disallowed and again, for him to rule it out for offside there should have been some indication from the linesman too.

All seems a bit suss really but hopefully the audio recordings will be released next time Owen and Webb do their comedy duo routine
 
stan bowles said:
Wolves aren't a little club at all. They've got as rich and proud a history as we have.
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Well said. That club gave a great history. My only issue yesterday was with their managers teeth and why a grown man would do that to himself.
 
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